Brain Circuits Drive Chronic Pain--Beyond Physical Sensation
TL;DR
- Chronic pain is rooted in brain circuitry, not solely physical sensation, as evidenced by antidepressants like Cymbalta also treating pain, indicating shared neural pathways for emotional and physical suffering.
- Automatic negative thoughts (ANTs) amplify pain by increasing muscle tension and activating emotional pain circuits while deactivating calming prefrontal cortex functions, exacerbating suffering.
- Opiates offer short-term pain relief but can worsen inflammation by negatively impacting white blood cells, making them a problematic long-term solution for chronic pain.
- Supplements like saffron, zinc, and curcumin demonstrate significant efficacy for depression and inflammation, offering a potent alternative to SSRIs which may increase dementia risk.
- Psychiatry's reliance on symptom clusters without brain imaging leads to misdiagnoses and ineffective treatments, highlighting the need for biological data to guide patient care.
- Repressed rage, often stemming from childhood dependency and unexpressed anger, can manifest as chronic pain, turning internalized fury into physical suffering.
- The "doom loop" of pain involves a cycle of suffering, ANTs, nervous tension, and bad habits, which can be interrupted by a "healing loop" of curiosity and proactive self-care.
- An elimination diet, removing common inflammatory triggers like gluten and dairy, can significantly alleviate chronic pain for many individuals by reducing systemic inflammation.
Deep Dive
The discussion begins by introducing Dr. Daniel Amen, a double board-certified psychiatrist and founder of Amen Clinics, known for his pioneering work in brain imaging and his new book, "Change Your Brain, Change Your Pain." His clinics have performed over 200,000 SPECT brain scans, allowing him to map blood flow patterns related to behavior, mood, and cognitive symptoms. This approach aims to demonstrate that struggles are rooted in biology rather than being solely "in one's head." The episode highlights the prevalence of chronic pain, affecting one in five adults according to the CDC, and sets the stage to explore the brain's pain circuits, the cycle that perpetuates pain, and potential therapeutic tools.
The conversation then delves into the nature of pain, positing that while pain is experienced in the body, its circuits reside in the brain. This is illustrated by the use of antidepressants like Cymbalta for chronic pain and supplements like SAMe for both depression and arthritis. The source explains that the brain circuits involved in emotional pain are the same ones that process physical pain, suggesting that an unhealthy brain makes one more susceptible to suffering. Repressed emotions, particularly rage, are identified as factors that can amplify suffering. The discussion touches on the use of Tylenol for emotional pain and Advil's differential effect on females versus males, hinting at hormonal influences.
The concept of the "doom loop" is central to the discussion, describing how the brain perpetuates pain once it begins. Automatic negative thoughts (ANTs) are presented as a key driver, increasing muscle tension and pain while diminishing the brain's calming circuits. A study on 2,000 people is cited, showing that negativity bias activates the emotional brain where pain circuits are located and deactivates the thoughtful brain responsible for calming. Low hope, low happiness, and low frontal lobe function are linked to increased pain, as they impair the ability to turn off pain signals.
The episode explores the impact of stress and certain conditions on pain susceptibility. Individuals experiencing higher stress levels are deemed more prone to negativity bias and thus more likely to experience pain if injured. Those with ADHD are noted to have lower activity in their prefrontal cortex, leading to impulsivity, and also lower cerebellar activity, which is involved in coordination. This reduced cerebellar function can increase the likelihood of minor accidents that lead to pain.
Regarding treatment, the source expresses concern over the long-term effects of opiates, citing a study showing they can increase inflammation by affecting white blood cells. For antidepressants, while not the first choice, the discussion pivots to supplements. Omega-3 fatty acids, saffron, zinc, and curcumin are highlighted for their potential benefits in managing depression and inflammation. A review of 192 studies on 17,000 people indicated saffron as highly effective for depression, with SAMe also showing promise. Zinc and curcumin are noted to enhance the effectiveness of saffron or antidepressants, with zinc aiding serotonin production and curcumin reducing inflammation.
A new study is mentioned that suggests SSRIs may increase vulnerability to dementia, a concern given that 25% of adults are on psychiatric medication. The reasoning provided is that SSRIs, by increasing serotonin, can cause cognitive problems if initiated at low doses, and depression itself is a risk factor for dementia, doubling the risk in women and quadrupling it in men. This leads to a critique of current psychiatric practices, advocating for a focus on identifying the root cause of depression rather than solely treating symptoms.
The source proposes a shift in psychiatric practice, advocating for three key changes: the use of imaging to understand brain function, honesty about the brain's condition, and a move away from symptom-cluster diagnoses without biological data. The current system, with millions of antidepressant prescriptions issued without brain scans, is described as "insanity." The influence of a half-trillion-dollar industry is suggested as a factor resisting this change, leading to critics labeling those who advocate for brain imaging as "quacks."
The discussion addresses the scientific consensus that depression is not solely caused by a neurotransmitter imbalance, with studies showing SSRIs performing no better than placebo in large groups. An anecdote is shared about a wife experiencing significant behavioral changes, including risk-taking, after being prescribed Prozac for depression following thyroid cancer, highlighting how medication can alter personality and decision-making. The conversation also touches upon birth control pills, noting their potential to alter a woman's attraction patterns and that 40% of women experience depression while on them, underscoring the importance of knowing the risks associated with medications.
The episode then pivots to a more holistic approach to brain health, emphasizing the need to address the root causes of depression. Dr. Amen's "BRIGHT MINDS" acronym is introduced as a framework for preventing or treating 11 major risk factors for brain health, applicable to depression, pain, and Alzheimer's prevention. These factors include blood flow, retirement/aging, inflammation, genetics, head trauma, diabetes, emotional stress, and sleep.
The role of psychological and social factors in depression is explored. A viral post suggesting that a vacation lifting depression indicates a "shitty life" is discussed, with the host agreeing that external circumstances can significantly impact mood. Dr. Amen outlines four circles of influence: biology, psychology (how one thinks), social circle (isolation, pandemic effects), and spirituality (belief in God, sense of meaning and purpose). He notes that not believing in God triples the risk of depression, and a lack of meaning and purpose, prevalent in 58% of young people, contributes to rising depression rates, exacerbated by a social media culture focused on self.
The potential for chronic pain to become akin to an addiction is raised. The case of Sam, a police officer with chronic back pain after accidents and multiple surgeries, is presented. Sam's overactive anterior cingulate gyrus, described as the brain's "gear shifter," led to a repetitive "I hurt" loop. Supplements aimed at calming this area provided relief. This illustrates the "doom loop," which begins with pain from any source (biological, psychological, social, or spiritual) and activates suffering circuits, leading to negative thoughts, nervous tension, bad habits, and a cycle of increased pain.
The "healing loop" is presented as the antidote to the doom loop. This involves approaching pain with curiosity rather than fury, asking questions about diet, sleep, and emotional state. "Havening," a technique involving bilateral hemisphere stimulation, is introduced as a method to calm the amygdala and reduce distress. The host shares a personal experience of using havens to process the grief and anger after his father's death, finding significant relief. This technique is compared to EMDR, noting its shared principle of processing difficult emotions.
The importance of mental discipline is emphasized as a key lifestyle lever. The source argues that the mind can be trained like a muscle, and education should include how to manage one's thoughts. A children's book, "Captain Snout and the Superpower Questions," is mentioned, promoting the idea of questioning negative thoughts, categorized as "ants" like all-or-nothing thinking, fortune-telling, and guilt-inducing thoughts. Giving one's mind a name is suggested as a technique to gain psychological distance and observe thoughts without attachment.
Repressed rage is identified as
Action Items
- Audit brain circuitry: Identify 3-5 specific pain circuits (e.g., feeling, suffering, calming) and assess their activity levels in chronic pain patients.
- Implement "curious, not furious" mindset training: Develop 2-3 daily exercises for patients to practice curiosity about pain triggers and emotional states.
- Create a 3-week elimination diet protocol: Guide patients to remove gluten, dairy, corn, soy, artificial dyes, and sweeteners to identify inflammatory food culprits.
- Design a "healing loop" intervention: Integrate 2-3 techniques (e.g., havening, emotional freedom journaling) to interrupt negative thought patterns and calm suffering circuits.
- Track inflammation markers: Measure baseline levels of inflammation (e.g., CRP, cytokines) and reassess after 4-6 weeks of dietary and lifestyle interventions.
Key Quotes
"The same circuits in the brain that cause emotional pain are involved in processing physical pain and so if your brain isn't healthy you're much more likely to suffer with pain and if you have repressed emotions especially rage you're much more likely to be in pain."
Dr. Amen argues that emotional and physical pain share neural pathways in the brain. This suggests that an unhealthy brain, potentially influenced by repressed emotions like rage, can amplify physical suffering. Therefore, addressing the brain's health is crucial for managing pain.
"The more ants you have automatic negative thoughts the thoughts that scare you make you angry or sad they increase muscle tension which then increases pain and so there's a huge study i talk about in the book on negativity bias and the more negative you are the more it activates your emotional brain where the pain circuit is and the more it deactivates your thoughtful brain which is where the calming circuit is."
Dr. Amen explains that automatic negative thoughts, or "ants," directly contribute to increased muscle tension and pain. He highlights research showing that negativity bias activates the brain's emotional pain circuits while deactivating the calming circuits in the thoughtful brain. This indicates a direct link between negative thinking patterns and the amplification of pain.
"Opiates actually make it worse so i talk about a study in the book where um they looked at white blood cells and the impact of opiates on white blood cells and initially it calms down the pain but after a few weeks it angers the white blood cells and now there's more inflammation so the opiate's short term benefit long term problem."
Dr. Amen cautions against the long-term use of opiates for pain management, citing a study that indicates they can increase inflammation by negatively impacting white blood cells. While opiates may offer short-term pain relief, Dr. Amen suggests they can exacerbate the underlying problem over time.
"Psychiatry is the only specialty that treats uh that doesn't actually see the organ that it treats yeah everybody remembers that that's the thing and you got to go well why is that do we not have good imaging tools no we have great imaging tools it's if we started looking the whole field would begin to fall apart and it would begin to change."
Dr. Amen criticizes the current state of psychiatry for not routinely examining the brain, the organ it treats. He asserts that advanced imaging tools exist and that their widespread use would fundamentally alter the field. Dr. Amen implies that a lack of direct brain visualization hinders effective diagnosis and treatment.
"The doom loop it's when you start hurting what your brain then starts doing that perpetuates the pain and then well how do you get out of it yes so can you actually think your way out of pain you can think your way into it right because the more ants you have automatic negative thoughts the thoughts that scare you make you angry or sad they increase muscle tension which then increases pain."
Dr. Amen describes the "doom loop" as a cycle where initial pain triggers the brain to engage in processes that perpetuate that pain. He emphasizes that negative thoughts ("ants") increase muscle tension, thereby worsening pain. This illustrates how cognitive processes can actively contribute to the continuation of suffering.
"I think everybody that has chronic pain should do an elimination diet for at least three weeks eliminate gluten dairy corn soy artificial dyes and sweeteners and just for three or four weeks do that... I have one patient who was had been had three suicide attempts who was chronically in pain and he came to see me his brain wasn't healthy and i'm like you've never done this he's had three courses of ect i'm like let's just do an elimination diet and within three weeks he's like oh my god dr rayman i'm so much better wow."
Dr. Amen advocates for an elimination diet as a crucial step for individuals experiencing chronic pain. He shares a compelling case where a patient with severe pain and mental health struggles significantly improved after adhering to such a diet. This highlights Dr. Amen's belief in the powerful connection between diet, inflammation, and overall well-being.
Resources
External Resources
Books
- "Change Your Brain, Change Your Pain" by Daniel Amen, MD - Mentioned as the subject of the discussion and a source of information on chronic pain and brain health.
- "The Body Keeps the Score" - Mentioned in relation to trauma and its physical manifestations.
- "Feeling Good" by David Burns - Mentioned as a resource for managing negative thoughts.
Articles & Papers
- Review article on saffron (192 studies on 17,000 people) - Discussed as evidence for saffron's effectiveness in treating depression.
- Study on SSRIs and dementia - Referenced for its findings that SSRIs increase vulnerability to dementia.
- Study on negativity bias (2,000 people) - Cited for demonstrating the negative impact of negativity on brain function.
People
- Daniel Amen, MD - Guest, double board-certified psychiatrist, brain imaging pioneer, founder of Amen Clinics, and author of "Change Your Brain, Change Your Pain."
- John Sarno - Mentioned for his work on chronic back pain and the concept of "all in your head."
- Ron Ruden - Developer of the Havenning technique.
- Julius Randle - NBA player who has been taught the Havenning technique.
- Tim Tebow - Mentioned in relation to APOE4 gene status and contact sports.
- Chloe Kardashian - Mentioned for discussing saffron supplements on her podcast.
- Dave Asprey - Mentioned for wearing yellow or red lenses due to having Erlen Syndrome.
Organizations & Institutions
- Amen Clinics - Founded by Daniel Amen, MD, and performs SPECT brain scans.
- CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) - Cited for statistics on chronic pain prevalence.
- NFL (National Football League) - Mentioned in relation to traumatic brain injury and rehabilitation programs involving omega-3 fatty acids.
- Change Your Brain Foundation - Provided evaluations for firefighters after the LA fires.
Websites & Online Resources
- Amen Clinics (Website not explicitly stated) - Mentioned as a place where SPECT brain scans are performed.
- AuraFrames.com - Mentioned as a sponsor offering photo frames.
- Wildgrain.com/MAX - Mentioned as a sponsor offering a subscription box for artisanal breads, pastas, and pastries.
- Oneskin.co/max - Mentioned as a sponsor offering skincare products with OS-01 peptide.
- LibertyMutual.com - Mentioned in a commercial break.
- MaxLugavere.com/film - Mentioned for the documentary "Little Empty Boxes."
- YouTube.com/maxlugavere - Mentioned for subscribing to The Genius Life.
- MaxLugavere.com/newsletter - Mentioned for a free weekly newsletter.
- Mintmobile.com - Mentioned as a provider of wireless service.
Other Resources
- SPECT brain scans - Discussed as a tool used by Amen Clinics to map blood flow patterns tied to behavior, mood, and cognitive symptoms.
- Havenning technique - A self-soothing technique involving bilateral hemisphere stimulation to calm the amygdala.
- EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing) - A psychotherapy technique mentioned as being related to Havenning.
- Bright Minds acronym - A framework for preventing or treating 11 major risk factors for brain health.
- APOE4 gene status - A genetic factor that increases the risk of dementia.
- Erlen Syndrome - A condition involving visual processing problems that can agitate pain circuits, treated with colored filtered lenses.
- Elimination diet - Recommended for individuals with chronic pain, involving the removal of gluten, dairy, corn, soy, artificial dyes, and sweeteners.
- Paraxanthine - A coffee metabolite that provides energy and focus without jitters.
- Glad game - An exercise from "Pollyanna" to find something to be glad about in any situation.
- Emotional freedom journaling - A technique to process past experiences and identify areas for personal work.
- Neuroplasticity - The brain's ability to reorganize itself by forming new neural connections throughout life.
- Anti-inflammatory strategies - Mentioned as a therapeutic tool for breaking the cycle of chronic pain.
- Gut health - Discussed for its role in modulating inflammation and supporting the immune system.
- Omega-3 fatty acids - Recommended supplement for brain health and pain management.
- Curcumin - A supplement derived from turmeric, noted for its anti-inflammatory and mood-boosting properties.
- Saffron - A spice and supplement discussed for its effectiveness in treating depression and Alzheimer's disease, and for increasing sexual function.
- SAM-e (S-adenosylmethionine) - A supplement that can help with depression and arthritis, recommended to be taken with betaine.
- Zinc - A supplement that aids in serotonin production.
- Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin) - Recommended for migraine prevention.
- Triptans (e.g., Sumatriptan) - Medications used to treat migraines.
- Nicotine lip pouches (e.g., Zyns) - Discussed as an addictive substance.