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Reclaiming Self From People-Pleasing Through Fawn Response Healing

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TL;DR

  • People-pleasing, rooted in childhood survival, erodes self-identity by hyper-attuning to others' needs, leading to a loss of personal preferences and interests.
  • The fawn response, a threat-detection mechanism, can lead to abandoning oneself to appease others, causing exhaustion, burnout, and resentment in relationships.
  • Excessive fawning, characterized by avoiding conflict or smothering others for reassurance, strains relationships by preventing emotional intimacy and fostering internal resentment.
  • Individuals exhibiting fawn responses often reenact past hurtful relationships, believing they can fix core wounds by gaining approval from unavailable or critical people.
  • Healing the fawn response involves increasing tolerance for discomfort, practicing honest communication, and recognizing that self-worth should not hinge on external approval.
  • The "lone wolf" fawn type, often perceived as apathetic, may retreat due to a fear of disappointment after past experiences of unmet needs or unmet help requests.

Deep Dive

Meg Josephson, a therapist and author, posits that people-pleasing, while a survival mechanism developed in childhood, ultimately erodes selfhood and strains relationships. This ingrained pattern of prioritizing others' needs and feelings over one's own, often stemming from unstable or volatile home environments, leads individuals to abandon their own preferences, thoughts, and emotions in a perpetual effort to avoid disapproval or conflict. The core argument is that understanding and dismantling these unconscious patterns is crucial for reclaiming a sense of self and fostering healthier, more authentic connections.

The pervasive nature of people-pleasing, often manifesting as a "fawn" response to perceived threats, has significant downstream effects. When individuals constantly seek external validation and appease others, they engage in a form of self-abandonment. This internal dynamic fuels overthinking of social interactions, a feeling of performing rather than being authentic, and a deep uncertainty about one's own identity. For example, the "peacemaker" archetype prioritizes harmony to such an extent that others' happiness becomes their responsibility, leading to the belief that managing moods is their fault. Similarly, the "performer" feels compelled to be "on" constantly, masking their true selves and experiencing loneliness through a lack of genuine connection. The "caretaker" archetype, often developed from fulfilling parental roles in childhood, derives value from being helpful and fixing others, potentially leading to enmeshed adult relationships.

The implications of these fawn responses extend into adult relationships and professional life, creating a cycle of anxiety and resentment. In relationships, constant reassurance-seeking can become addictive, ironically leading to irritability in partners and further triggering the people-pleaser's fear of rejection. Alternatively, avoiding conflict to maintain short-term peace can foster internal war, resentment, and emotional distance, ultimately damaging relationships long-term. Professionally, the power dynamic between boss and employee can mirror early caregiver relationships, prompting individuals to appease authority figures to maintain a sense of security. This can lead to misallocating importance to relationships that do not warrant such intense focus, as the fear of disapproval overrides rational judgment.

Healing from these deeply ingrained patterns begins with awareness, followed by a conscious effort to insert a pause before reacting. This involves slowly and safely increasing tolerance for discomfort, both internal and relational, by practicing honesty and setting boundaries. The "NICER" framework -- Noticing, Inviting, Curiosity, Embracing, Returning to what's real -- offers a structured approach to managing anxiety and discomfort. By acknowledging and accepting these difficult emotions rather than suppressing them, individuals can communicate safety to their bodies and begin to distinguish between hypothetical threats and present realities. Ultimately, shifting from a "doing" orientation, driven by the need to perform and please, to a "being" orientation, characterized by acceptance and self-awareness, allows for a more authentic and less effortful return to oneself. This process, while challenging, can lead to greater closeness in relationships or, at minimum, clarity about what can be expected from others, fostering a healthier sense of self-worth not contingent on external approval.

Action Items

  • Audit personal interactions: Identify 3-5 recurring situations where a "fawn response" is triggered to understand root causes of people-pleasing.
  • Create self-awareness framework: Define 5 key internal signals (e.g., anxiety, overthinking, silencing needs) that indicate a fawn response is active.
  • Practice mindful pausing: Insert a 60-second pause before responding in 3-5 high-stakes social or professional interactions to allow for conscious choice over reaction.
  • Evaluate relationship importance: For 3-5 relationships, assess alignment between perceived importance and actual positive impact to re-allocate emotional energy.
  • Draft boundary statements: Prepare 2-3 clear, concise statements for saying "no" or expressing needs in low-risk personal interactions.

Key Quotes

"If you're upset with me, I can't feel okay until we're good again. Like, I need to know that you're not upset with me before I can breathe again because it's just so all-consuming."

Meg Josephson, a therapist and author, describes the intense, all-consuming nature of people-pleasing, where her own sense of well-being was contingent on another person's approval. This quote illustrates how the need for external validation can override personal peace and the ability to function.


"But over time, she saw that her people-pleasing habits were eroding her sense of self, and straining the very relationships she was trying to protect."

This description from the episode introduction highlights the paradoxical outcome of people-pleasing, where the very behaviors intended to foster connection and safety ultimately damage one's identity and relationships. It points to the long-term negative consequences of prioritizing others' needs above one's own.


"I think as children we grow up kind of wanting it to be black and white. It was all good or it was all bad or it was loving or it wasn't loving and there were loving moments but there were also really painful ones as well and so I think honoring that complexity has been really important to me just allowing there to be both."

Meg Josephson reflects on the childhood tendency to categorize experiences as purely good or bad, especially in unstable environments. She emphasizes the importance of acknowledging the complex, nuanced reality of relationships, where both positive and negative aspects can coexist.


"The fawn response is when there is a threat, whether that threat is real or perceived... we appease the threat, we try to be liked by it, we try to impress it, satisfy it, diffuse conflict so that we can go back to feeling safe."

Meg Josephson explains the fawn response as a survival mechanism triggered by perceived threats, where individuals attempt to de-escalate by appeasing, pleasing, or impressing the source of the threat. This quote defines a key concept for understanding people-pleasing as an adaptive, albeit sometimes detrimental, coping strategy.


"The external being not setting boundaries, avoiding conflict at all costs, saying yes when you want to say no, contorting your opinions to match whoever you're with because you just want to be liked by them or you don't want them thinking you disagree, silencing your needs, shoving your feelings down."

Meg Josephson details the outward behaviors associated with the fawn response, emphasizing actions like boundary avoidance and suppressing personal opinions and needs to gain approval. This quote provides concrete examples of how people-pleasing manifests externally in interactions.


"The lone wolf silences their needs by disappearing and isolating and pulling away because my needs are so meaningless that I'm just going to be so easy and not inconvenient to you so that lone wolf craves deep connection but would rather be alone than be disappointed or let down."

This quote describes the "lone wolf" archetype of the fawn response, characterized by withdrawal and isolation as a means of avoiding inconvenience and potential disappointment. The author highlights the paradox of craving connection while simultaneously pushing others away to protect oneself from perceived rejection.

Resources

External Resources

Books

  • "Are You Mad at Me? How to Stop Focusing on What Others Think and Start Living for You" by Meg Josephson - Mentioned as the author's book that resonated with the host's experiences with people-pleasing.
  • "The Other Side of Change" by Maya Shankar - Mentioned as the host's upcoming book, blending new stories with scientific insights on resilience.

Articles & Papers

  • "How To Say No" (A Slight Change of Plans) - Mentioned as a previous episode that listeners might enjoy if they liked the current episode.

People

  • Meg Josephson - Therapist and author, discussed as an expert on people-pleasing and fawn responses.
  • Maya Shankar - Host of "A Slight Change of Plans," scientist who studies human behavior, and author.
  • Sunita Sah - Mentioned in relation to a previous episode titled "How To Say No."
  • Jimmy Lee - Mentioned as part of the "A Slight Change of Plans" production team.
  • Zarna Garg - Comedian, mentioned as the guest for the upcoming final episode of the year.
  • James L. Brooks - Academy Award-winning writer and director, mentioned in relation to the film "Ella McCay."
  • Emma Mackey - Actress, mentioned as playing the lead role in "Ella McCay."
  • Jamie Lee Curtis - Actress, mentioned as part of the cast of "Ella McCay."
  • Jacki Weaver - Actress, mentioned as part of the cast of "Ella McCay."
  • Kumail Nanjiani - Actor, mentioned as part of the cast of "Ella McCay."
  • Iola Evans - Actress, mentioned as part of the cast of "Ella McCay."
  • Julie Kavner - Actress, mentioned as part of the cast of "Ella McCay."
  • Albert Brooks - Actor, mentioned as part of the cast of "Ella McCay."
  • Woody Harrelson - Actor, mentioned as part of the cast of "Ella McCay."

Organizations & Institutions

  • Pushkin Industries - Production company for "A Slight Change of Plans."
  • Penguin Random House - Publisher of Maya Shankar's book.
  • 20th Century Studios - Studio presenting the film "Ella McCay."
  • Gilead - Sponsor of information about PrEP.
  • Lilly - Sponsor of information about sleep apnea.

Websites & Online Resources

  • changewithmaya.com/book - Website to learn more about and pre-order Maya Shankar's book.
  • changewithmaya.com/join - Website to join Maya Shankar's ambassadors program.
  • omnystudio.com/listener - Website for privacy information.
  • dontsleeponosa.com - Website to learn more about obstructive sleep apnea (OSA).
  • findoutaboutprep.com - Website to learn more about PrEP (Pre-Exposure Prophylaxis).

Other Resources

  • Fawn Response - Discussed as a survival mechanism involving appeasing a threat to feel safe.
  • NICER framework - An acronym (Notice, Invite, Curiosity, Embrace, Return) presented as a method for managing discomfort.
  • Obstructive Sleep Apnea (OSA) - A condition where breathing is interrupted during sleep, discussed in relation to a personal anecdote.
  • PrEP (Pre-Exposure Prophylaxis) - Prescription medicine taken before exposure to HIV to reduce the risk of infection.

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