Third Trimester Pregnancy Challenges, Recovery, and Partner Support
TL;DR
- Cryptic pregnancies, where symptoms are absent until late stages, can lead to spontaneous labor and birth, highlighting the potential for unexpected and rapid delivery even when medical induction is anticipated.
- The podcast explores the emotional and physical challenges of late-stage pregnancy, including severe leg cramps and nightmares, illustrating the significant physical toll and psychological impact on expectant mothers.
- Packing a hospital bag involves practical considerations like adult diapers and earplugs, but can become overwhelming, as exemplified by the excessive quantity of items packed, underscoring the need for careful selection.
- The discussion around placenta encapsulation and consumption, while unconventional, points to a growing interest in postpartum recovery practices and the desire for perceived health benefits from bodily substances.
- Navigating intimacy during the third trimester presents unique physical challenges, requiring creative approaches and adjustments to accommodate the pregnant body, demonstrating the adaptability needed in relationships.
- The podcast touches on the importance of partner advocacy during labor and delivery, emphasizing how a supportive companion can communicate the birthing person's needs when they are unable to.
- The episode highlights the diverse experiences of postpartum adjustment, including potential postpartum depression in mothers and the transition challenges faced by partners, underscoring the need for open discussion.
Deep Dive
This is the second-to-last episode of the NearlyParents podcast before Sophie goes on maternity leave, marking a significant pause in their regular content. Jamie is facing pressure to pass his driving test, with his test date potentially coinciding with Sophie's due date. Sophie is experiencing intense pregnancy cravings, which include a strong desire for Vietnamese rolls with fish sauce and mango and prawn salad, as well as Serrano ham.
The discussion then shifts to the common perception of pregnancy duration, with Sophie asserting that pregnancy is ten months (40 weeks) rather than the often-cited nine months. Jamie humorously recounts Sophie's requests for assistance with simple tasks, like filling her water bottle, and details his unhinged approach to packing the hospital bag. This included ordering a fan, an excessive number of adult nappies and pants, and a pack of a thousand earplugs, leading to a suitcase filled primarily with these items.
A peculiar situation arose when their cleaner opened a parcel containing a box meant for placenta encapsulation, mistaking it for the actual placenta and becoming distressed. This led to an explanation of the process where Sophie plans to have her placenta turned into pills and a moisturizer for personal consumption. Jamie and Sophie also debated whether Jamie would try Sophie's breast milk or placenta, with Jamie expressing willingness to try the milk but not the placenta, while Sophie was firm about not sharing her placenta.
The conversation took a turn into a discussion about male anatomy, specifically circumcision, and the term "balled" at the end of the penis. This led to a humorous exchange where Jamie explained that circumcision involves removing the foreskin, not a "balled," and a request for visual examples of circumcised and uncircumcised anatomy. They also touched upon the anatomy of the vagina, mentioning the labia majora and minora.
Sophie then detailed her nightly experience with severe leg cramps, which require Jamie's assistance to alleviate, noting his perceived weakness in helping. She also shared disturbing nightmares she has been having, including one involving a baby with a Family Guy head and another about repeatedly failing to get a pet rabbit up a slip and slide. To combat sleep disturbances, they have been listening to Stephen Fry's "Mythos" on repeat, though it appears the playback is not adhering to scheduled timers.
The episode features a sponsor segment for Nuna baby gear, highlighting their Dutch design, safety standards, and a new collaboration with BMW. Following this, another sponsor segment promotes Momentous supplements, particularly their Creapure creatine, backed by experts like Dr. Andrew Huberman and Dr. Stacy Sims.
Listener messages are then shared. One anonymous listener recounts a mortifying teenage experience involving giving a hand job that resulted in sperm on her hand, which was noticed by her friend's mother. Another listener, Meg, shares an extraordinary story about her sister Ellie, who was 38 weeks pregnant with a cryptic pregnancy and went into labor unexpectedly, giving birth to a healthy baby boy named Sunny. Laura shares her experience with postpartum depression and commends Jamie for being an advocate for Sophie during labor, also finding motivation in Jamie's ultramarathon journey to get back into running with a running buggy.
The discussion returns to pregnancy preparations, with a mention of perineal massages, which Sophie expresses no desire to perform due to exhaustion and a preference for watching reality television. Jamie also nudges Sophie about assembling the pram, which has been sitting unassembled for three months. They then address the topic of resuming sexual activity, with Sophie expressing reservations about missionary positions and her inability to be on top due to her pregnant state, leading to a humorous discussion about alternative positions.
The conversation touches on the idea of "reborn virgins" and the hymen, with Sophie recalling a childhood desire to ride a pony to break her hymen before losing her virginity. They also discuss the necessity of harvesting breast milk, with Sophie expressing fear and a need for Jamie's help to extract milk into a pipette, contrasting this with her past experiences of going to nightclubs. Sophie then describes her recent baby shower, which was a joyful event despite her sister's absence, and mentions that a show about it will be released on Disney+ next year.
A segment dedicated to baby names ensues, with Jamie and Sophie reacting to suggestions like Rowan, Stuffy, Grant, Jamie Junior, Edith, Walter, Isabelle, and Keith. They express particular dislike for Keith due to a character in a book. Sophie also reveals that for her baby shower, guests were asked to bring their childhood favorite books, including "The Rainbow Fish."
The episode concludes with a collaborative rhyming story game where Jamie and Sophie build a narrative line by line, starting with a family in a shack with a pet bat. The story takes a bizarre turn, involving a rat, a horse, an eyeball, a scary daddy, and a knife. They then discuss the upcoming final episode before Sophie's maternity leave, promising it will be emotional, happy, and fun, and reiterate how to contact them. They offer well wishes for various life situations, including marriage, engagement, renovations, being single, and pregnancy.
Action Items
- Audit hospital bag packing: Define 3-5 essential categories (e.g., clothing, toiletries, documents) and specify quantity limits for items like adult diapers and earplugs to prevent overpacking.
- Create a postpartum support checklist: Outline 5-7 specific actions a partner can take to support the birthing parent, addressing physical (e.g., cramp relief) and emotional needs.
- Design a structured approach to baby preparation: Develop a plan for assembling 2-3 key baby items (e.g., pram, cot) with defined responsibilities and timelines to avoid delays.
- Draft a guide for partner involvement in labor: Detail 3-5 ways a partner can advocate for the birthing person's wishes and needs during labor and delivery.
Key Quotes
"hello everyone welcome back to the nearly parents podcast it's a very special one for you today my name is jamie my name is sophie and today i find out what a bellend is for the first time we also talk about the list of things that we absolutely despise about each other and we also discuss the potential of having sex again praise the lord baby bliss we love you guys enjoy here it is and remember if you haven't subscribed already click that button okay here we go enjoy the episode"
Jamie and Sophie introduce the episode by highlighting some of the topics they will cover, including a personal discovery and discussions about their relationship and intimacy. This sets a tone of candidness and personal sharing for the podcast.
"oh guys i'm just i know i know pregnancy is a long time it's fucking 10 months why do we all lie and say it's nine months like what are you doing to us it is 10 months 10 months is 40 weeks your due date is on 40 weeks so why are we all yack on about oh those nine months are tough even pregnant people say they're like oh yeah nine months was it's not nine months it's harder for i'll tell you what it is 4 0 babe"
Sophie expresses frustration with the common misconception that pregnancy lasts nine months, emphasizing that it is actually 10 months or 40 weeks. This highlights her personal experience and the physical toll of pregnancy.
"my sister sends jamie very sweetly i will say it's really sweet that you wanted to pack my bag for me like that is so cute and we did get advised that from the midwife that is really useful the men to pack it so that you know when you're in labor they know where everything is and they've got everything they used to like all the things i've never been pregnant before i don't fucking know that i need a uh adult nappy for when i give birth thank you very much"
Sophie acknowledges Jamie's effort in packing her hospital bag but also points out the practical necessity of having a partner who understands the contents. This illustrates the collaborative aspect of preparing for childbirth and the differing perspectives between partners.
"so basically when i'm holding the baby i'm just going to be surrounded by like meat when you're holding the baby you want to be surrounded by meat yeah do you think everyone who's been listening to our podcast thinks it's now time for that baby to come"
Jamie humorously describes Sophie's pregnancy cravings, suggesting she wants to be surrounded by meat while holding the baby. This highlights the intense and sometimes unusual nature of pregnancy cravings and the anticipation of the baby's arrival.
"so what happens i don't fucking know i'm not the willy connoisseur okay so hang on they pull it up and snip the top of it i don't fucking know the skin off it what do you mean the balled the skin on the the cap the hat no what are you talking about what do you think it's called a balled why do you think why do you think the end of your penis is called a balled it's the end and it probably looks like a bell if i really studied it yeah the end of your penis when you pull it looks like a bell a bell it looks more like a mushroom surely the top of a mushroom because you haven't seen one for ages so you you honestly thought because i'm circumcised that they had cut off my balled"
Jamie and Sophie engage in a humorous and somewhat confused discussion about the anatomy of a penis, specifically the term "balled" and the process of circumcision. This showcases their playful dynamic and their willingness to discuss intimate topics with levity.
"i had um i don't think we can probably put this in but this is a true nightmare that i had okay so you know family guy yeah you know the cartoons what they look like yes that's what the baby looked like but on a normal body but the head was the family guy head like the eyes when it's like anyway my sister's oh no my mom's holding the baby yeah with the family guy face on like cartoon yeah and i am in this room with my sister and she opens the door to this greasy haired man and she says you're next client's here and i said oh no i don't want to georgie and she said come on you've got to do it and as i'm doing the deed my mom walks in with the family guy baby and i felt such guilt and my mom's like sorry don't mind me just getting the bottle for the baby that's the dream i had we probably need to cut that out because it's so inappropriate where was i don't know clearly left me and i had to make a living but it was really really jarring like really jarring"
Sophie recounts a bizarre and unsettling nightmare involving a Family Guy-esque baby and an inappropriate situation. This illustrates the vivid and sometimes disturbing nature of dreams experienced during pregnancy.
Resources
External Resources
Books
- "The Boyfriend" by Freida McFadden - Mentioned as a book where the character Keith is a murderer, influencing the dislike of the name Keith.
People
- Dr. Andrew Huberman - Mentioned as a leading performance expert who backs Momentous Creapure Creatine.
- Dr. Stacy Sims - Mentioned as a leading performance expert who backs Momentous Creapure Creatine.
- Ryan Reynolds - Featured in a Mint Mobile advertisement.
- Dave - Mentioned in a California Lottery advertisement for scratchers.
- Charlotte Tilbury - Mentioned as a brand with gift sets available at Ulta Beauty.
- Ariana Grande - Mentioned as a brand with fragrances available at Ulta Beauty.
- YSL - Mentioned as a brand with fragrances available at Ulta Beauty.
- Carolina Herrera - Mentioned as a brand with fragrances available at Ulta Beauty.
- Tommy John - Mentioned as a brand for sleepwear, underwear, and loungewear, suitable for holiday gifts.
Organizations & Institutions
- Momentous - Mentioned as a supplement brand that works with human science experts to create formulas, with their Creapure Creatine backed by Dr. Andrew Huberman and Dr. Stacy Sims.
- Mint Mobile - Featured in an advertisement with Ryan Reynolds, offering unlimited wireless for $15 a month.
- Granger - Mentioned as a trusted partner for manufacturing plants, particularly for auto-reordering and on-time restocks of supplies like cut-resistant gloves.
- California Lottery - Mentioned in an advertisement for scratchers as a gift idea.
- Ulta Beauty - Mentioned as a retailer for holiday gifts, including gift sets and fragrances.
- Zyn - Mentioned as America's number one nicotine pouch brand.
Websites & Online Resources
- livemomentous.com - Website to visit for Momentous subscription orders with promo code ACAS T.
- mintmobile.com - Website to visit to switch to Mint Mobile.
- granger.com - Website to visit for Granger services.
- zyn.com - Website to find Zyn at a store near you.
- tommyjohn.com - Website to visit for Tommy John purchases with a discount code.
Other Resources
- Creapure Creatine - Mentioned as a product from Momentous, backed by performance experts, sourced in Germany, and considered the gold standard for creatine.
- Nicotine pouches - Mentioned in relation to Zyn, America's number one brand.
- Scratchers - Mentioned as a gift idea from the California Lottery.
- Baby gear - Mentioned in relation to the brand Nuna and its collaboration with BMW, available at Holfords.
- Perineal massage - Mentioned as a practice discussed with a doula, involving massaging the vulva.
- Placenta pills - Mentioned as a product made from a placenta, which Sophie plans to consume.
- Real Housewives of London - Mentioned as a show Sophie watches while milking her breasts.
- Mythos by Stephen Fry - Mentioned as an audiobook that helped Jamie sleep.
- Greek mythology - Mentioned in relation to the audiobook "Mythos" by Stephen Fry.
- Baby names - Discussed, with specific names like Rowan, Stuffy, Grant, Jamie Junior, Edie, Walter, Isabelle, and Keith being considered.
- Childhood favorite books - Requested as gifts for a baby shower, with "The Rainbow Fish" being mentioned.
- Storytelling game - Played by taking turns to create a rhyming story.