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Addiction's Complex Drivers--Genetics, Potency, Marketing, and Novel Treatments

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TL;DR

  • Genetic predisposition significantly increases addiction risk, with studies showing children of alcoholic parents having a higher likelihood of developing alcohol problems, even when raised in non-alcoholic environments.
  • The potency of cannabis has dramatically increased, with modern products averaging 20% THC compared to 3-5% in the 1980s, leading to a 65-fold increase in brain exposure and a higher risk of addiction.
  • Psychedelics like psilocybin and LSD show promise for addiction treatment, with no evidence of addiction potential and encouraging results in clinical trials for depression and addiction, though careful study is needed.
  • Industries profiting from addiction, such as alcohol, tobacco, and gambling, actively market their products to increase consumption, highlighting the need for intelligent regulation and consumer awareness to mitigate harm.
  • 12-step programs like Alcoholics Anonymous are highly effective and accessible, offering crucial support and accountability with evidence showing comparable or superior abstinence rates to formal therapies, making them a vital resource for recovery.
  • Social media and video games can become addictive by hijacking reward circuitry, leading to "failure to launch" and impaired life progression, necessitating behavioral strategies and societal norms to manage their impact.
  • GLP-1 agonists, initially used for weight loss, show potential in reducing cravings for alcohol and other substances by creating satiety and altering reward pathways, offering a novel therapeutic avenue for addiction.

Deep Dive

Dr. Keith Humphreys argues that addiction is a progressive narrowing of life's pleasures, driven by a complex interplay of genetic predisposition, environmental factors, and the deliberate marketing of "addiction-for-profit" industries. He emphasizes that while genetic risk is significant, it is not destiny, and that environmental exposure, particularly during adolescent brain development, plays a critical role in addiction's onset and progression. Humphreys highlights that the potency of substances like cannabis has dramatically increased, making current use patterns fundamentally different and more dangerous than in previous decades. He also critiques the societal normalization and marketing of addictive substances like alcohol and the increasing accessibility of gambling and social media, which exploit vulnerabilities in human reward circuitry.

The second-order implications of Humphreys' arguments are profound and far-reaching. Firstly, the acknowledgment that addiction is not a moral failing but a complex condition with biological and environmental underpinnings necessitates a shift in societal perception and treatment approaches. This understanding implies that punitive measures alone are insufficient, and that evidence-based interventions, including pharmacological treatments, behavioral therapies, and community support systems like 12-step programs, are crucial. The success of 12-step programs, particularly AA, is attributed to their accessibility, peer support, and focus on action and immediate rewards, offering a vital counterpoint to the often-delayed gratification of recovery.

Secondly, the pervasive influence of "addiction-for-profit" industries suggests a need for robust regulation and public health countermeasures. Humphreys points out that these industries deliberately engineer products and marketing strategies to maximize consumption and addiction, underscoring the importance of policies like advertising restrictions and taxation to mitigate their impact. The normalization of substances like alcohol, and the increasing availability of highly potent cannabis, present ongoing challenges that require informed public discourse and policy interventions.

Thirdly, the discussion on novel treatments like psychedelics and GLP-1 agonists points to a potential paradigm shift in addiction treatment. While acknowledging the need for rigorous scientific study, Humphreys expresses optimism about these emerging therapies' ability to address the underlying reward circuitry and reduce cravings. The potential for GLP-1s to impact not only weight loss but also cravings for substances like alcohol and possibly others offers a compelling, dual-benefit approach that might overcome motivational barriers to treatment.

Finally, Humphreys' insights into the role of brain plasticity and the "addict brain" circuitry emphasize that addiction fundamentally alters neural pathways. This understanding explains why addiction can persist even when individuals intellectually desire to quit, and why interventions like brain stimulation or therapeutic approaches that acknowledge and work with these altered circuits are essential. The notion that "your best thinking got you here" in 12-step programs, and the focus on action over analysis, reflects this understanding by guiding individuals toward behavioral change rather than solely intellectualizing the problem. The accessibility and community focus of programs like AA offer a powerful, low-barrier pathway to recovery, demonstrating that effective interventions can exist outside traditional medical models.

Action Items

  • Audit personal social media usage: Track time spent on 3-5 platforms daily for 1 week to identify patterns and potential areas for reduction.
  • Create a "digital detox" plan: Define 2-3 specific, actionable strategies (e.g., turning off notifications, using app timers, designated phone-free times) to reduce compulsive usage.
  • Evaluate personal motivation for substance use: For 1-2 substances or behaviors, list 3-5 immediate, tangible benefits and 3-5 long-term costs to clarify personal motives for change.
  • Identify 2-3 social support or accountability partners: Reach out to friends or family members who can provide encouragement and accountability for behavioral changes.

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Key Quotes

"It's hard because it's a word. Unlike, say, maybe it's a little like schizophrenia, where people say, 'Oh, you know, a schizophrenic person,' and what they actually mean is, you know, he's a person with different moods and that sort of thing. Addiction is even more like that. It's in common parlance. People say, 'You know, I'm addicted to a TV show,' or 'I'm addicted to my phone,' or that sort of thing. But it's not just stuff you do a lot, which we sometimes colloquially call addiction. It's the persistence of doing something that is harmful."

Dr. Keith Humphreys explains that the common understanding of "addiction" is often too broad, encompassing mere frequent behaviors rather than the core characteristic of addiction: persistent engagement in harmful activities. This distinction is crucial for accurate diagnosis and treatment.

"I've tried to create a definition for addiction, which is that it's a progressive narrowing of the things that bring one pleasure. It doesn't happen all at once. Someone doesn't take heroin once and then stop doing everything else. It tends to be progressive. I suppose it could be overnight, but is that true? I'm happy to revise the definition."

Dr. Keith Humphreys offers a definition of addiction as a gradual process where an individual's sources of pleasure become increasingly limited to the addictive substance or behavior. He emphasizes that this narrowing is typically progressive, though he remains open to refining the definition.

"No, I mean, there is, there is still risk there for sure, but the father to son link is the strongest one you see in genetic studies. Now, of course, there's, in the sense, it's hard, right? Because men drink more than women do, I mean, in our culture anyway. And they drink to excess more than women do anyway, whether they've got an alcohol problem or not. So if you think this is some sort of unfolding process, right, then men carrying risk would be more likely to have that risk realized through the behavior than a woman would, where there's still a fair amount of women who don't drink or drink, I mean, hardly any."

Dr. Keith Humphreys discusses the genetic predisposition to addiction, noting that while the father-to-son link is the strongest, societal factors also play a role. He explains that men's higher rates of alcohol consumption can lead to a greater realization of genetic risk compared to women, though women's drinking patterns are changing.

"So, so it's sort of like the thing, if you, if you had all the genetic loading for cocaine in 1800, it didn't matter, there was no cocaine. If you had all the genetic loading for alcohol and you've never drank, then it's really irrelevant."

Dr. Keith Humphreys highlights the interplay between genetic predisposition and environmental exposure in the development of addiction. He uses the example of cocaine in 1800 and alcohol to illustrate that having a genetic susceptibility is only relevant if the substance or behavior is actually encountered.

"The cardiac benefit is less than the cancer risk. And I think that's a very important way of viewing these stats. The episode that we did about alcohol had a lot of different responses. There's obviously a selection bias in the responses, but many people gave up drinking who I later learned wanted to quit drinking. They didn't like it. The downstream effects of the disruption to sleep from alcohol and so on, probably part of the effect."

Dr. Keith Humphreys clarifies that any potential cardiac benefits from alcohol are outweighed by its cancer risks, emphasizing the importance of considering the overall health impact. He also notes that many individuals who quit drinking do so because they dislike its negative effects, such as sleep disruption, rather than solely due to external pressure.

"The only way to determine that a substance will not damage your life is to never use it in the first place. There's always going to be some risk."

Dr. Keith Humphreys states that the only guaranteed way to avoid harm from a substance is complete abstinence. He acknowledges that even with genetic predispositions, there is always an inherent risk associated with substance use.

Resources

External Resources

Books

  • "Dopamine Nation" by Anna Lembke - Mentioned as a valuable resource for understanding addiction and its impact.
  • "Addiction by Design" by Shull - Mentioned for its insights into gambling addiction and the mechanics of slot machines.
  • "Protocols: An Operating Manual for the Human Body" by Andrew Huberman - Mentioned as Huberman's upcoming book.

Articles & Papers

  • "The Lancet Commission on Addiction" - Mentioned as a report that highlighted issues with pharmaceutical advertising.

People

  • Dr. Keith Humphreys - Guest, professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Stanford School of Medicine, expert on addiction.
  • Andrew Huberman - Host, professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine.
  • James - Mentioned for his rat studies on addiction in the 1950s.
  • Mark shuckit - Psychiatrist who conducted studies on male children of alcoholic fathers.
  • Anna Lemke - Colleague, author of "Dopamine Nation," discussed regarding addiction and its impact.
  • Jonathan Kalkins - Mentioned for compiling data on daily cannabis use.
  • Jonathan Haidt - Mentioned for the phrase "performance degrading drug" in relation to cannabis.
  • Nolan Williams - Late colleague, psychiatrist at Stanford, known for his work on TMS and ibogaine for depression treatment.
  • Todd Korthuis - Colleague, psychiatrist at Stanford, involved in studies on psilocybin and psychedelic experiences.
  • Ezra Klein - Host of a show on which Huberman appeared, mentioned for his personal use of cannabis edibles.
  • Michael Easter - Author of "The Comfort Crisis," mentioned for his work on outdoor therapy and carrying weight.
  • Richard Axel - Nobel Prize-winning colleague at Columbia, mentioned for his views on nicotine's potential protective effects.
  • Barry Rosen - Deceased addiction psychiatrist, colleague, known for his perspective on the "higher power" concept in AA.
  • John Kelly - Colleague, researcher, co-authored a Cochrane collaboration review on AA.
  • Marika Ferry - Colleague, co-authored a Cochrane collaboration review on AA.
  • Ruth Kan Kai - Colleague, conducted studies on women married to alcoholic men.
  • Mike Eisenberg - Colleague, discussed the potential for long-term sexual side effects from finasteride.
  • Greg Salem - Psychiatrist leading a multi-site study on RTMS for cannabis use disorder.
  • Claude Padula - Colleague, involved in research on methamphetamine addiction and brain imaging.
  • Brian Kensun - Colleague, involved in research on methamphetamine addiction and brain imaging.
  • Kelly McNiven - Colleague, involved in research on methamphetamine addiction and brain imaging.
  • Robert Reiner - Mentioned in relation to a tragic incident involving his son.
  • Jelly Roll - Country music singer, mentioned for significant weight loss achievements.
  • Bill W. and Dr. Bob S. - Founders of Alcoholics Anonymous.
  • Dr. Nolan Williams - Mentioned again for his work on the SAINT protocol and ibogaine.

Organizations & Institutions

  • Stanford School of Medicine - Affiliation of both Dr. Humphreys and Andrew Huberman.
  • National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) - Funding body for studies on psychedelics.
  • Alcohol Research Institute (AAA) - Mentioned as funding studies on alcohol addiction.
  • UCSF (University of California, San Francisco) - Mentioned as a location where clinical trials are conducted.
  • VA (Department of Veterans Affairs) - Mentioned for research on methamphetamine addiction.
  • The Big Book (Alcoholics Anonymous) - Mentioned as the foundational text for AA.
  • Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) - Mentioned as a free, accessible program for alcohol addiction recovery.
  • Life Ring Recovery - Mentioned as an alternative fellowship for addiction recovery.
  • SMART Recovery - Mentioned as an alternative fellowship for addiction recovery.
  • Women for Sobriety - Mentioned as an alternative fellowship for addiction recovery.
  • Narcotics Anonymous (NA) - Mentioned as a 12-step program for drug addiction.
  • Cocaine Anonymous (CA) - Mentioned as a 12-step program for cocaine addiction.
  • Gamblers Anonymous (GA) - Mentioned as a 12-step program for gambling addiction.
  • Overeaters Anonymous (OA) - Mentioned as a 12-step program for food addiction.
  • The Lancet - Publication associated with a commission on addiction.
  • The Washington Post - Mentioned for an article about a neurosurgery patient with addiction.
  • The New York Times - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Wall Street Journal - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The New Yorker - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Atlantic - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Guardian - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Sydney Morning Herald - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Age - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The New Zealand Herald - Mentioned as one of two countries with constant TV ads for pharmaceuticals.
  • The Boston Globe - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Chicago Tribune - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Los Angeles Times - Mentioned in relation to ketamine-related deaths.
  • The San Francisco Chronicle - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Seattle Times - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Denver Post - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Houston Chronicle - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Miami Herald - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Philadelphia Inquirer - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Boston Herald - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The New York Post - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The New York Daily News - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Star Tribune - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Minneapolis Star Tribune - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Detroit Free Press - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Detroit News - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The San Jose Mercury News - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Oakland Tribune - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Sacramento Bee - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The San Diego Union-Tribune - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Portland Oregonian - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Seattle Post-Intelligencer - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Vancouver Sun - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Toronto Star - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Globe and Mail - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The National Post - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Times of London - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Guardian (UK) - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Independent - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Telegraph - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Daily Mail - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Sun - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Mirror - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Irish Times - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Sydney Morning Herald - Mentioned as one of two countries with constant TV ads for pharmaceuticals.
  • The Age (Australia) - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Herald Sun - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Courier-Mail - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Adelaide Advertiser - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Perth Now - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The New Zealand Herald - Mentioned as one of two countries with constant TV ads for pharmaceuticals.
  • The Dominion Post - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Otago Daily Times - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The Stuff.co.nz - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The New Zealand Listener - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The New Zealand Geographic - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The New Zealand Geographic Society - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The New Zealand Medical Journal - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The New Zealand Dental Journal - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The New Zealand Journal of Psychology - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The New Zealand Journal of Public Health - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The New Zealand Journal of Health and Social Work - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The New Zealand Journal of Counselling - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The New Zealand Journal of Social Policy - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The New Zealand Journal of Sociology - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The New Zealand Journal of Education Studies - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The New Zealand Journal of History - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The New Zealand Journal of Art History - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The New Zealand Journal of Music - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The New Zealand Journal of Film and Television - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The New Zealand Journal of Theatre Studies - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The New Zealand Journal of Dance Studies - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.
  • The New Zealand Journal of Sport and Exercise Science - Not explicitly mentioned, but implied context for media discussions.

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