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Horse Racing Analysis: Trainer, Jockey, and Dispute Dynamics

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TL;DR

  • Trainer Chad Summers is having a career year, with a 23% win rate, and his strategic use of blinkers on Fizante led to a three-win-out-of-ten performance.
  • Mike Deen, a long-time trainer and owner, demonstrates a successful strategy of claiming horses for $30,000 and immediately re-entering them at the same level, leading to wins.
  • Chris Hartman's barn is demonstrating strong performance at the Fairgrounds, with a 2-for-4 record, particularly when paired with jockey Marcelino Pedroza Jr., indicating a potent trainer-jockey combination.
  • Trainer Wesley Ward achieved a significant four-win day at Gulfstream Park, highlighting his effectiveness with two-year-olds and his strategic use of jockey Irad Ortiz Jr.
  • The jockey colony is strategically dividing their time across major tracks, with Irad Ortiz Jr. primarily at Gulfstream, Jose Ortiz at the Fairgrounds, and Flavien Prat in New York, maximizing earnings.
  • The jockey dispute at Aqueduct, stemming from the replacement of an assistant clerk of scales, highlights underlying tensions and a perceived lack of respect from NYRA management towards riders.

Deep Dive

The podcast episode from Horse Racing Radio Network's "1/ST Bet Racing Show" on December 4, 2025, primarily functions as a race-day broadcast, offering commentary and analysis of specific races from Aqueduct, Fairgrounds, Gulfstream Park, and Woodbine. The core arguments revolve around the performance of horses in these races, jockey performances, trainer insights, and the logistical challenges of racing, such as weather-related track conditions and jockey disputes. The second-order implications are rooted in the immediate outcomes of the races and the ongoing narratives within the horse racing industry, such as the strategic decisions of trainers and owners, the dynamics between jockeys and racing authorities, and the potential for horses to advance to higher-stakes competitions.

The broadcast details specific race outcomes: at Aqueduct, the 11 Fizante won race 8; at Fairgrounds, Mary's Boy Bolt won race 6, Carson Street won race 8, and Madame Marcevich won race 9; at Gulfstream Park, Pull Star won race 9; and at Woodbine, Nikki is a Breeze won race 1. Beyond these race results, a significant portion of the discussion centers on the dispute between the New York Racing Association (NYRA) and jockeys at Aqueduct, which led to race cancellations. This highlights a tension between racing management and the riders, with jockey Kendrick Carmouche expressing frustration over perceived disrespect and issues like family access to the jockeys' room. The analysis suggests that such disputes, if not resolved effectively, can disrupt racing schedules and negatively impact horsemen, bettors, and the overall integrity of the sport by creating uncertainty and financial losses. Furthermore, the discussion touches on the strategic decisions of trainers, such as Chad Summers' success with claimed horses and Chris Hartman's effective tandem with jockey Marcelino Pedroza, indicating that astute claims and trainer-jockey partnerships are critical for success. The commentary also explores the breeding and pedigree of horses, such as the Bolt d'Or progeny, and their performance on different track conditions, implying that understanding breeding can predict performance, especially on challenging surfaces. The episode concludes with discussions of upcoming races and the broader horse racing calendar, including the potential for horses like Further Ado and Bella Ballerina to contend in major races like the Kentucky Derby and Oaks, and the international racing circuit, with mentions of the Hong Kong Sprint and Saudi Arabian races, all of which underscore the interconnectedness of the global racing community and the continuous pursuit of top-tier competition.

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Key Quotes

"we've got live action today coming up from fairgrounds gulfstream park a little woodbine in our number two close out the aqueduct card right here at the top of our number one bob that was the call of sky beauty's coaching club american oaks back in 1993 we're going to uh go back into the history book well we're going to go back into last week as well and here's some of the great calls from uh not only around the country but around the world that took place last week"

The speaker is setting the stage for the broadcast, indicating that the show will cover live racing from multiple tracks and also revisit notable calls from the previous week, both domestically and internationally. This establishes the scope of the program and hints at a blend of current events and historical racing moments.

"no more racing at churchill turfway is opened up no more racing at del mar they're over at los al for a few weeks before the big boys step back in out at santa anita uh just the day after christmas we're about two minutes away bob from the eighth and final race on today's aqueduct card and this is going to be something that you and i discuss as well today because it wasn't a sure thing that they were actually going to be racing today at aqueduct more on that in just a little bit but they did race today at aqueduct and they've got the first seven races in the books"

This quote details the current status of several racetracks, noting which ones have closed for the season and which are open. The speaker also highlights a specific situation at Aqueduct where racing was uncertain but ultimately proceeded, adding a layer of immediate interest to the broadcast.

"my pick is the 11 fizante junior alvarado chad summers chad summers having a career year 23 puts the blinkers on he's three for 10 putting the blinkers on only problem with this horse is he loves to finish second two for 25 overall 11 seconds at this track seven seconds and a win in 11 starts interesting to me that he's owned by trainer mike deeny who's uh actually we'll talk about him later in the show he's got he's in the gulfstream last as a trainer uh claimed off of a a bray a barn last uh actually on 11 7 november 7th for uh 30 000 right back in at this level looks like a live chance from the outside to me bobby"

The speaker is making a specific race selection, identifying "Fizante" as their pick. They provide details about the horse's trainer, jockey, and performance statistics, including a notable tendency to finish second. The speaker also points out an interesting ownership detail and suggests the horse has a strong chance from its post position.

"but yeah the the easy way of saying it is you know this is a filly who couldn't win a turf race at gulfstream during the non championship meet there's no business sending her to royal ascot yeah i mean absolutely i i know it's easy red board now but i mean there are very few people who race horses in this country that would have ever considered that move and the ones who would have are the ones that have some sort of ties to racing in europe or unlimited funds yeah i mean it's just one of those situations where quite frankly ammo racing likes to see their purple colors in every two year old race at at ascot and i'm i'm not looking at whatever the ten group stakes uh that are run for two year olds at during the five days of royal ascot but they probably had a runner in every race whether they were four to one or a hundred to one"

This quote critiques a specific horse's racing decisions, suggesting that sending the filly to Royal Ascot was an inappropriate move given her performance at Gulfstream. The speaker implies that the owner, Ammo Racing, prioritizes having their colors represented at major international events over strategic race placement for the horse.

"and i'm not really sure you can say one is definitely more important than the others and i apologize if i'm leaving some people out here you know if first of all if there are no horses the show doesn't go on if there are no people breeding the horses i'm pretty sure pretty sure there's no show if there are no people training the horses there's no show if there are no owners pretty sure there's no show if there are no jockeys there's no show by the way if there's no race tracks there's no show and if there's nobody betting on these horses there's no show so to make a comment like that like that we should be treated like the kings of the sport i just kind of want to say fu to that because no you should be treated as important as everyone else that's important to this"

The speaker is responding to a perceived statement about the importance of jockeys in horse racing. They argue that multiple facets of the sport, including horses, breeders, trainers, owners, racetracks, and bettors, are equally crucial for racing to exist. The speaker rejects the idea that any single group, including jockeys, should be considered "kings of the sport" above all others.

"i mean you know obviously one of the smartest jockeys we've both ever known you know is a guy you know chris mccarran okay now chris mccarran um you know was very wise with his words and uh you know there aren't that many chris mccarrans that have ever been in in jockeys' rooms so um you know and i'm sure there are a few that have been very very similar um but yeah i mean kendrick carmouche i think was feeling the heat of the moment and uh you know i don't think that he'll come out and apologize i don't think he really needs to but i think that he you know he should learn from it"

The speaker contrasts Kendrick Carmouche's recent comments with those of a highly respected and articulate jockey, Chris McCarron. They suggest that Carmouche may have spoken impulsively due to pressure and that while he might not need to apologize, he should learn from the experience of making such statements.

Resources

External Resources

Books

  • "History Book" - Mentioned in relation to going back into the history of racing calls.

People

  • Mike Deeny - Mentioned as an owner and trainer in horse racing.
  • Chad Summers - Mentioned as a trainer in horse racing.
  • Junior Alvarado - Mentioned as a jockey in horse racing.
  • Flavian Pratt - Mentioned as a jockey in horse racing.
  • David Donk - Mentioned as a trainer in horse racing.
  • Chris Hartman - Mentioned as a trainer in horse racing.
  • Marcelino Pedroza Jr. - Mentioned as a jockey in horse racing.
  • Steve Asmussen - Mentioned as a trainer in horse racing.
  • Chris Hartman - Mentioned as a trainer in horse racing.
  • Jose Quinonez - Mentioned as a jockey in horse racing.
  • Jose Ortiz - Mentioned as a jockey in horse racing.
  • Irad Ortiz Jr. - Mentioned as a jockey in horse racing.
  • Wesley Ward - Mentioned as a trainer in horse racing.
  • Bob Baffert - Mentioned as a trainer in horse racing.
  • Kendrick Carmouche - Mentioned as a jockey and spokesperson for jockeys.
  • John Velazquez - Mentioned as a jockey.
  • Chris McCarron - Mentioned as a jockey.
  • Javier Castellano - Mentioned as a jockey.
  • Mike McCarthy - Mentioned as a trainer in horse racing.
  • Brad Cox - Mentioned as a trainer in horse racing.
  • Brendan Walsh - Mentioned as a trainer in horse racing.
  • James Graham - Mentioned as a jockey.
  • Paco Lopez - Mentioned as a jockey.
  • Jose Riquelme - Mentioned as a jockey.
  • Brian Williamson - Mentioned as a trainer in horse racing.
  • Jason Fall - Mentioned as a trainer in horse racing.
  • Keith Desormeaux - Mentioned as a trainer in horse racing.
  • Mike De Paulo - Mentioned as a trainer in horse racing.
  • Danny Yu - Mentioned as a trainer in horse racing.
  • Fraser Aebly - Mentioned as a trainer in horse racing.
  • Sitta Tard - Mentioned as a trainer in horse racing.
  • Pietro Moran - Mentioned as a jockey.
  • Mike Doyle - Mentioned as a Hall of Fame trainer in horse racing.
  • Jaden De Sales - Mentioned as a jockey.
  • Larry Collmus - Mentioned as a caller.
  • Bob Newman - Mentioned as a co-host.
  • Bob Nastanovich - Mentioned as a co-host.
  • Lee Delapina - Mentioned as a producer.
  • Dave Gremminger - Mentioned as a writer.
  • Terry Meyocks - Mentioned as president and CEO of the Jockeys' Guild.
  • Pat McKenna - Mentioned as a spokesperson for NYRA.
  • Danny Gargan - Mentioned as a trainer.
  • Ryo's Age Sakai - Mentioned as a jockey.
  • Kai Ying Rising - Mentioned as a jockey.
  • Ben Tornado - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Forever Young - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Sierra Leone - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Magnitude - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Hit Show - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Chunk of Gold - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Further Ado - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Bella Ballerina - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Explora - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Atropa - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Life of Joy - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Kadem - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Masquerade Ball - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Callandigan - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Ag Bullet - Mentioned as a horse.
  • In Our Time - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Breath Away - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Strategic Risk - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Way Out - Mentioned as a horse.
  • The Town - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Roger That Dana - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Kozalite - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Zayas - Mentioned as a jockey.
  • John Oxley - Mentioned as an owner.
  • Noble Bird - Mentioned as a sire.
  • Carson Street - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Brendan Walsh - Mentioned as a trainer.
  • Ben Curtis - Mentioned as a jockey.
  • Colby Hernandez - Mentioned as a jockey.
  • Calumet Farm - Mentioned as an owner.
  • Joe Sharp - Mentioned as a trainer.
  • Paco Lopez - Mentioned as a jockey.
  • Rapoli - Mentioned as a trainer.
  • Am Wager - Mentioned as a bet.
  • Canoodling - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Todd Fincher - Mentioned as a trainer.
  • Nikki's Breeze - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Mike DePaolo - Mentioned as a trainer.
  • Pietro Moran - Mentioned as a jockey.
  • Majestic Appeal - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Phil Hall - Mentioned as a trainer.
  • Kavey Nichols - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Lady Izzy - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Aussie Hyper - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Mia Matolli - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Bella Classica - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Danny Yu - Mentioned as a trainer.
  • Ryan Munger - Mentioned as a trainer.
  • Classic Empire - Mentioned as a sire.
  • Bessarabian - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Rags to Riches - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Kurt Becker - Mentioned as a host.
  • James Scully - Mentioned as a host.
  • John Dooley - Mentioned as a caller.
  • Jose Luis Ortiz - Mentioned as a jockey.
  • Flavien Prat - Mentioned as a jockey.
  • Kendrick Carmouche - Mentioned as a jockey.
  • John Velazquez - Mentioned as a jockey.
  • Rachael Luck - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Selective - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Sarah Louise - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Explora - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Atropa - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Paving - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Tom Amos - Mentioned as a trainer.
  • Sister Troy Ann - Mentioned as a horse.
  • James Graham - Mentioned as a jockey.
  • Final Shipman - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Special Sauce - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Unfaithful Rose - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Collective Beauty - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Love Your Neighbor - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Madame Marchevich - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Amore - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Spicing Noodles - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Miss Brandy Shaw - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Diamond Tiara - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Sell the Buffalo - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Mom's Hands - Mentioned as a horse.
  • C.J. McMann - Mentioned as a jockey.
  • Twirling Candy - Mentioned as a sire.
  • Tapit - Mentioned as a sire.
  • Mister Chocolate - Mentioned as a sire.
  • Chocolate One - Mentioned as a sire.
  • Ellie Sims - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Declan Cannon - Mentioned as a jockey.
  • Maze Money Vine - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Madame Marchevich - Mentioned as a horse.
  • Kobe Hernandez - Mentioned as a jockey.
  • Keith Deswarmo - Mentioned as a trainer.
  • Caracaro - Mentioned as a sire.
  • Candy Ride - Mentioned as a sire.
  • Stylish Ride - Mentioned as a mare.
  • Thoroughbred Acadiyana - Mentioned as an owner.

Organizations & Institutions

  • Horse Racing Radio Network (HRRN) - Primary podcast and radio network for horse racing content.
  • 1/ST Bet Racing Show - A specific show on HRRN.
  • The Blood Horse - A publication providing news and updates on the horse racing industry.
  • New York Racing Association (NYRA) - Organization that oversees racing in New York.
  • Jockeys' Guild - Organization representing professional jockeys.
  • New York State Gaming Commission - Regulatory body for gaming in New York.
  • Huntsman Mental Health Institute - Organization providing mental health resources.
  • Ad Council - Organization involved in public service announcements.
  • US Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) - Government department providing services to veterans.
  • Leukemia and Lymphoma Society (LLS) - Organization focused on blood cancer research and support.
  • Alzheimer's Association - Organization providing resources and support for Alzheimer's disease.
  • National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) - Government agency focused on road safety.
  • Project Yellow Light - Organization promoting safe driving.
  • Pre-diabetes Awareness Partners - Group promoting awareness of pre-diabetes.
  • The Jed Foundation - Organization focused on mental health for teens and young adults.
  • American Foundation for Suicide Prevention - Organization dedicated to preventing suicide.
  • Obesity Action Coalition - Organization addressing weight bias.
  • First Responders Children's Foundation (FRCF) - Organization supporting children of first responders.
  • First Bet - A betting platform for horse racing.
  • Express Bet - A betting platform for horse racing.
  • Hong Kong Jockey Club - Organization overseeing horse racing in Hong Kong.
  • Saudi Arabian Sprint Race - A specific race in Saudi Arabia.
  • Dubai World Cup - A major international horse racing event.
  • Breeders' Cup - A series of high-stakes horse races.
  • Kentucky Derby - A major horse race for three-year-old

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