Bending Spoons Platform Model Drives Lean Product Teams
TL;DR
- Bending Spoons operates as a horizontal platform, enabling leaner individual product teams by centralizing shared functions like recruiting, finance, and deep tech infrastructure, thus reducing operational overhead for acquired companies.
- Product decisions prioritize long-term user retention and product usefulness over immediate revenue impact, especially for established products like Evernote, trusting that enhanced utility will sustain customer loyalty.
- Monetization strategies are highly case-specific, adapting aggressively for established products with large user bases while employing less aggressive approaches for growing products to foster deeper user experience and referral rates.
- The company leverages customer feedback by asking specific, behavioral questions about past usage rather than hypothetical preferences, using tools like "The Mom Test" to uncover genuine product needs and avoid building unwanted features.
- AI is transforming product development by enabling faster prototyping and testing, shifting the designer's role towards rapidly iterating on code-level abstractions rather than pixel-perfect mockups.
- Monthly user updates are crucial for building trust and demonstrating ongoing commitment, focusing on shipped features and current launches to reassure users of long-term investment and value.
- The acquisition strategy involves integrating products into a central platform, significantly reducing the operational headcount of acquired companies by orders of magnitude, often from hundreds to dozens.
Deep Dive
Bending Spoons operates as a highly efficient acquisition and product development engine, prioritizing deep customer understanding and iterative improvement over flashy, large-scale launches. Their success hinges on a platform-based organizational structure that allows product teams to remain lean and focused, leveraging shared technological capabilities. This model enables them to integrate acquired companies and scale them rapidly, emphasizing long-term customer retention and value delivery as the primary drivers of success, even when direct revenue impact for individual features is difficult to quantify.
The core of Bending Spoons' product strategy lies in its rigorous approach to idea validation and iterative development, with a strong emphasis on second-order implications. Instead of relying solely on upfront business cases, they prioritize qualitative assessment and customer feedback, using tools like prototype testing and direct customer interviews to gauge potential utility. This is exemplified by Evernote, where many features are developed not for immediate revenue uplift, but to enhance overall product usefulness, with the expectation that this deepens user commitment and reduces churn. The company recognizes that for products like Evernote, retention is paramount, defining it as "the percentage of your life that you choose to spend together with a product." This philosophy guides their decision-making, leading them to prioritize features that incrementally improve the user experience, even if their financial impact isn't immediately measurable.
This commitment to long-term value and user retention influences their approach to monetization and product launches. While actively managing subscriber churn, Bending Spoons advocates for confident and transparent pricing communication, believing that if a product delivers sufficient value, users will accept price adjustments. For product launches, they distinguish between incremental improvements and significant innovations. Routine updates are communicated weekly to build trust and demonstrate ongoing commitment, while substantial changes, like major version upgrades or AI feature introductions, warrant more focused and expansive communication to ensure awareness and adoption. Their experience with failed launches, such as the gaming subscription service Playon, has reinforced the need for ruthless self-assessment and clear, pre-defined success metrics, underscoring the importance of distinguishing between user enthusiasm for a concept and actual product adoption. This strategic focus on user value and continuous, evidence-based iteration allows Bending Spoons to effectively manage a diverse portfolio of products.
Action Items
- Audit authentication flow: Analyze 10 key endpoints for SQL injection, XSS, and CSRF vulnerabilities to prevent security breaches.
- Create runbook template: Define 5 essential sections (setup, common failures, rollback, monitoring) to standardize operational procedures and prevent knowledge silos.
- Implement mutation testing: Target 3 core product modules to identify untested edge cases and improve overall code robustness.
- Measure user retention drivers: For 3-5 core features, quantify impact on churn rate and customer lifetime value to inform product strategy.
- Profile build pipeline: Identify 5 slowest steps and establish a 10-minute CI target to maintain rapid feedback loops.
Key Quotes
"I learned that you should care about what you're thinking of building and and yeah and so that failed or i mean it's still alive but it didn't scale in a hypergrowth way and then i just like i wanted this hypergrowth feeling and the way I discovered bending spoons was on the internet and I just read the things that were written on their website and they were so ambitious so clear so like we know what we are we are having great results but we are not satisfied we are at the scale of downloads of like twitter or spotify or stuff like that and they are unknown right and I was like who are these people who are getting these results while being unsatisfied by the scale they're at and so I started studying I just applied as you normally do and yeah I brought some liquor to mateo one of the co founders for my first interview and I like to think that that's what got me the job and yeah and that was almost eight years ago now"
Federico Simionato explains that his initial startup experience taught him the importance of validating the core idea behind a product. He discovered Bending Spoons through their ambitious online presence, which highlighted their success coupled with a drive for continuous improvement, prompting him to apply and ultimately secure a position there. Simionato suggests that a creative gesture, like bringing liquor to an interview, can also make a memorable impression.
"I think the best background to enter as a pm is either being an entrepreneur which teaches you to think about things that matter or being a very good analyst of some kind like somebody who's done very deep thoughtful analysis over how something works and mckinsey for instance like luca did or but even in an academic career it can be but just something who's very thoughtful and looks at the root causes of some behaviors or some things that will happen I think those are both things that matter a lot for a pm and so that's what matters a lot as a pm"
Simionato emphasizes that a strong foundation for a Product Manager (PM) role comes from either entrepreneurial experience, which fosters a focus on impactful ideas, or from a background in deep, analytical thinking, such as that gained in consulting or academia. He believes these experiences cultivate the ability to understand root causes, a critical skill for effective product management. Simionato highlights that these analytical and entrepreneurial mindsets are what truly matter for success in a PM role.
"I think the underlying principle is the same you have to find out what matters and you have to make it good the way you do that evolves in time I think with ai you can build prototypes faster and so that allows you to test easily which is something you couldn't do in the past but the underlying principle of you need to focus on what matters is still very true today"
Simionato observes that while the methods for product development have evolved, the core principle remains constant: identifying what is truly important and executing it well. He notes that advancements like AI enable faster prototyping, which in turn facilitates easier testing of ideas. Simionato asserts that despite these technological shifts, the fundamental need to focus on what matters most is still paramount for product success.
"Two ways we try to find the best ideas by one analyzing the top line so how valuable is this idea how much revenue is it going to bring how many more customers is it going to bring and we try to be very qualitative about it is it a step change compared to the previous way you do things and these things are generally alternative because you cannot analyze how much of a step change it is if you don't have a prototype"
Simionato explains Bending Spoons' approach to idea generation involves two primary methods: assessing the potential impact on the top line, such as revenue and customer acquisition, and evaluating if the idea represents a significant improvement over existing solutions. He points out that truly understanding the "step change" potential of an idea often requires a prototype to test its real-world application. Simionato suggests that these qualitative assessments are crucial for identifying truly innovative ideas.
"I think evernote is the best example of this many of the things that we do on evernote are not because we want to increase revenue but it's because we want to make the product more useful and in a very unquantifiable way we just trust that by making the product more useful people will keep choosing to stay on evernote evernote is is an archetype is a kind of a product that has great inherent retention because people pour their working hours into it and so they build their content they get familiar with the product but really what we do is we try to make evernote more useful every day even though we cannot for each individual feature that we build analyze its financial performance but it's still something that i would still choose to do every day because it's just so important to people"
Simionato uses Evernote as a prime example of prioritizing product usefulness over direct revenue impact for individual features. He explains that Bending Spoons focuses on enhancing the product's utility, trusting that this will lead to sustained user retention. Simionato highlights that Evernote's inherent retention stems from users investing significant time and content into it, and the company's strategy is to continuously improve its usefulness, even when the financial performance of each specific feature cannot be precisely quantified.
"I think we did on evernote that produced the biggest churn was when we raised prices in 2023 which is something that we thoroughly analyzed and we ultimately made the decision to do it nonetheless the reason being we believed and and we still believe it that evernote provides a great deal of value to people that use it and that we could optimize pricing at the time we thought we could increase prices and people would still consider it a great deal not all of them of course there is a small amount of people who thought evernote was either already too expensive or kind of at their threshold"
Simionato identifies the 2023 price increase on Evernote as the product decision that led to the most significant churn. He explains that despite thorough analysis, the company believed Evernote offered substantial value, justifying a price optimization. Simionato acknowledges that while the majority of users still found it a good deal, some users perceived it as too expensive or at their limit, leading to their departure.
"I think what you want to do is you want to be confident about what you're doing so that you don't fear communication if i'm confident that the price i'm asking you to pay is fair then i can tell you 10 times and you will still make the decision of staying retained if you're trying to like shy away and like should we like use bullshit language and and not really tell people that we are increasing their prices that's a bad move and i and i it means that you're not confident that your product is delivering value to people"
Simionato advises that confidence in the value proposition is key to effective communication regarding price changes. He suggests that if a price increase is genuinely fair, communicating it repeatedly should not deter users who find value in the product. Simionato criticizes evasive language around price hikes, viewing it as a sign of a lack of confidence in the product's ability to deliver sufficient value to its users.
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Resources
External Resources
Books
- "The Purple Cow" by Seth Godin - Mentioned as an analogy for the importance of being surprising and unique when trying to make an impression.
- "The Mom Test" by Rob Fitzpatrick - Referenced for its advice on asking questions that elicit honest feedback from customers about product ideas.
Tools & Software
- Figma - Used for creating prototypes and showing them to customers for feedback on product ideas.
- Cursor - Mentioned as a tool used initially for building a follower ranking tool, and later for improving it.
- Cloud Code - Used for building a follower ranking tool, noted for its improvement speed.
- WarpDev - Mentioned as an AI coding tool that integrates terminal and IDE functionalities for faster and more reliable code production.
- Coderabbit - Described as a tool that automates code review by providing line-by-line comments and one-click fixes to reduce review time and bugs.
People
- Seth Godin - Author of "The Purple Cow," referenced for his concept of uniqueness.
- Rob Fitzpatrick - Author of "The Mom Test," referenced for his methodology on customer feedback.
- Matteo - Co-founder of Bending Spoons, mentioned as someone the speaker brought liquor to for his first interview.
- Luca - Mentioned as an example of someone with a background from McKinsey who would make a good product manager.
- Phil Libin - Former leader of Evernote, mentioned in the context of feeling a sense of responsibility when working on Evernote due to its history.
- Elon Musk - Mentioned as a player of the mobile game Polytopia.
Organizations & Institutions
- Bending Spoons - The company where Federico Simionato works, described as an "acquisition machine" in the tech world.
- Evernote - Acquired by Bending Spoons, discussed extensively regarding product strategy, user retention, and monetization.
- Vimeo - Acquired by Bending Spoons.
- Eventbrite - Acquired by Bending Spoons.
- Streamyard - Acquired by Bending Spoons.
- WeTransfer - Mentioned as a product where a feature was built to recover expired transfers.
- McKinsey - Mentioned as an example of a place where one could gain analytical experience valuable for a product manager.
- Revolut - Mentioned as the subject of a podcast episode Federico Simionato found particularly insightful.
- Apple Notes - Mentioned as a competitor to Evernote, noted for its basic functionality and pre-installation on devices.
- Google Keep - Mentioned as a competitor to Evernote, noted for its basic functionality.
- Netflix - Used as an analogy for subscription services and price increases.
- Yahoo - Mentioned in the context of experienced professionals Federico Simionato met at Evernote.
- Google - Mentioned as a company the speaker would love to work on, specifically Google Search, Google Maps, YouTube, Android, and their AI initiatives.
- Neuralink - Mentioned as a product with the potential to change the world significantly in the future.
Websites & Online Resources
- coderabbit.ai - The website for Coderabbit, with a promotional code "20VC" offered for a free trial.
- warp.dev - The website for Warp, with a promotional code "20VC" offered for a free trial.
Other Resources
- AI (Artificial Intelligence) - Discussed as a tool that can speed up prototyping and testing in product development.
- Product Management - The role Federico Simionato holds, with discussions on necessary backgrounds, skills, and evolution of the role.
- User Retention - A key metric discussed, particularly in relation to Evernote.
- Monetization Strategies - Discussed in the context of scaling from freemium to premium models.
- Push Notifications - Discussed as a tool with varying effectiveness depending on the product.
- Paid Marketing - Discussed in terms of whether it operates as a centralized function or is specific to individual product teams.
- Remote Work - Discussed in terms of its effectiveness in product teams and its impact on talent acquisition.
- Hybrid Work - Suggested as a good mix of remote and in-person work.
- Polytopia - A mobile game mentioned as a non-obvious app on Federico Simionato's home screen.
- Napper - An app for logging baby feeding and nap times, mentioned as a non-obvious app on Federico Simionato's home screen.
- Entrepreneurship - Identified as a key skill for product managers.
- Rapplet - A tool mentioned in a quick-fire round, with the speaker preferring its UX over Lovable.
- Lovable - A tool mentioned in a quick-fire round, with teams using it more than Rapplet.
- Neuralink competitor - A hypothetical venture Federico Simionato would start if not afraid to fail.