Strength Running Q&A: Training, Fueling, and Pacing Strategies
TL;DR
- Leveraging a bodyweight support system like Lever allows runners to increase training volume or intensity with reduced injury risk, enabling more consistent progress and faster returns from injury by simulating lighter body weight on a treadmill.
- Heavy barbell lifting offers unique benefits for running economy, power, and muscle fiber recruitment, but successful athletic development is achievable with bands and dumbbells, emphasizing movement quality over maximal weight.
- For senior runners, reducing overall training volume and potentially intensity, while incorporating non-impact cross-training and increasing recovery time between hard sessions, is crucial for sustained performance and injury prevention.
- High carbohydrate fueling, aiming for 60-120 grams per hour for longer events or workouts, is essential for performance, faster recovery, and hormonal benefits, and should be practiced during training to optimize gut adaptation.
- Marathon pacing strategy should prioritize consistency, using course features like downhills later in the race rather than starting significantly faster, to avoid premature fatigue and ensure a stronger finish.
- Strength training, like running, requires periodization; during a taper, weightlifting volume should be reduced while maintaining intensity to keep the nervous system primed without causing fatigue or soreness before a key race.
- Determining new race paces without actual competition is challenging, but consistent training progress and potentially racing shorter distances can provide reliable indicators, allowing for informed adjustments to goal paces.
Deep Dive
This episode of The Strength Running Podcast features a live Q&A session with coach Jason Fitzgerald and members of the Team Strength Running community. The discussion begins with a question from Matt regarding his 20-miler training for a marathon. Fitzgerald confirms that running two additional 20-milers is acceptable, provided Matt feels good and is not overly sore. He also suggests incorporating quality running, such as finishing with three to ten miles at goal marathon pace, to enhance the stimulus from these long runs and practice fueling while fatigued.
The conversation then shifts to John, a senior runner, who finds balancing volume and intensity challenging. Fitzgerald advises a reduction in overall volume, potentially replacing some of it with non-weight-bearing cross-training like cycling. He also recommends maintaining intensity through speed workouts and strength training but suggests potentially reducing the number of weekly workouts to one, and increasing recovery time between hard sessions, which might extend the training schedule to an eight-day cycle.
Lisa raises a question about the importance of heavy barbell lifting, noting her own positive experiences with bands, dumbbells, and kettlebells after a back injury from a heavy hex bar deadlift. Fitzgerald acknowledges that heavy lifting offers unique benefits for running economy, power development, and muscle fiber recruitment, which are best trained with heavy weights. However, he emphasizes that significant success is achievable without it, as other forms of strength training improve general coordination and resilience. He advises against abandoning heavy lifting entirely but suggests incorporating it cautiously, perhaps with professional guidance, focusing on form and appropriate weight rather than maximal lifts. He also highlights the importance of strength training for bone density and overall longevity, particularly for post-menopausal women.
John then inquires about high-carbohydrate fueling for endurance events. Fitzgerald strongly recommends high-carb fueling, suggesting 60-75 grams per hour for half marathons over two hours, and 90-120 grams for marathons and ultras. He notes the performance benefits and faster recovery associated with adequate fueling. For training runs, he advises fueling long runs and longer mid-week workouts similarly to a marathon, recommending 45-75 grams of carbohydrate per hour, to train the gut and improve adaptation.
Matt returns with a question about starting a marathon faster on a course with downhills, like the CIM marathon. Fitzgerald expresses hesitation about starting too fast, suggesting that while Matt might have gotten lucky in his first marathon, it's generally better to run an appropriate goal pace and utilize the course's downhills later in the race to gain time. He advises against banking time early and prefers a strategy of starting conservatively, running mostly on pace, and then increasing the pace in the final miles if feeling good.
Matt also asks about lifting advice during a taper. Fitzgerald explains that high-performance lifting is periodized and tapered similarly to running, aiming to maintain sharpness while reducing fatigue. He advises cutting volume, maintaining or slightly increasing intensity, and performing short, hard lifting sessions that prime the nervous system without causing significant soreness. He stresses that the week before a race is for short-term readiness, not long-term capacity building.
Lisa follows up, expressing that her training cycle is going better than expected and her marathon pace seems too slow, leading to fading around mile 15. Fitzgerald explains that without a race, it's difficult to precisely gauge new fitness levels. He suggests that if she's consistently fading around mile 15, she should remain somewhat conservative initially to delay that fade until closer to mile 20. He recommends using a heart rate monitor to stay in an appropriate intensity zone and notes that middle-distance races are valuable for accurately assessing and extrapolating paces. Lisa's plan to join a pace group finishing about two and a half minutes faster than her former goal is endorsed as a good strategy to achieve a breakthrough while mitigating risk, emphasizing the benefits of group support.
Action Items
- Audit strength training: Assess 3-5 key movements for appropriate weight and form to prevent injury.
- Implement fueling strategy: Test 45-75 grams of carbohydrate per hour during long runs and 1-2 weekly workouts.
- Design race pace strategy: Use a pace group 2.5 minutes faster than previous goal pace for marathon execution.
- Evaluate long run quality: Incorporate 3-10 miles at goal marathon pace into 1-2 20-mile long runs.
Key Quotes
"I have found over my coaching practice that as long as you have a plan, you are in a much better position than someone who doesn't have a plan and so I want to make sure everyone here has a plan for their running they know what to do they know how to execute on that training because you're just going to get a lot closer to your goals if you're operating with that kind of a strategic approach."
Coach Jason emphasizes the foundational importance of a structured training plan. He argues that having a clear strategy, rather than simply training without direction, significantly increases the likelihood of achieving running goals. This highlights his belief in the power of intentionality and execution in athletic development.
"what's better than a 20 mile long run? Two 20 mile long runs. You just really end up getting uh you know two doses of that stimulus and you'll find that you know the more competitive you get the more of those longer long runs in that sort of 18 to 22 mile range that you'll find yourself doing."
Coach Jason suggests that for marathon training, extending the long run distance, even beyond 20 miles, can provide a greater training stimulus. He indicates that more competitive runners often incorporate multiple long runs in this extended range. This points to a strategy of progressively increasing the demands of long runs to build endurance.
"Rule number one is is maybe now is not the time for two workouts a week maybe you just do one workout and a long run and you might need some additional time to recover in between those two hard days and so that's i think one of the the biggest key to balance here is the actual schedule itself."
Coach Jason advises senior runners to adjust their training schedules to accommodate recovery needs. He suggests reducing the frequency of high-intensity workouts from two per week to one, in addition to the long run, and emphasizes the importance of spacing these hard days further apart. This indicates a need for a more conservative approach to training volume and intensity as runners age.
"So those things are going to be best trained with heavy weightlifting. Now it sounds like you're doing great with bands and dumbbells and kettlebells and you're not really doing the heavy lifting and you can also be very successful without the heavy lifting because you know one of the other really great benefits of strength training is the fact that it does improve your general coordination."
Coach Jason explains that while heavy barbell lifting offers specific benefits like improved running economy and power, it is not the only path to successful strength training. He notes that other forms of resistance training, such as using bands, dumbbells, and kettlebells, can also enhance athleticism and coordination, leading to positive running outcomes. This suggests a flexible approach to strength training, prioritizing what works best for the individual.
"The only thing that I would say is you know if you're feeling great and you're you're healthy and you like what you're doing I'm really hesitant to have you do anything too much different you know maybe in a little while you can think about how to incorporate some heavier lifts into your training maybe you get a personal trainer for one or two sessions and you're not really hiring them for a workout you're hiring them to really learn those specific movements so that hopefully you can do it with with the right form and you can prevent yourself from getting hurt that way."
Coach Jason advises caution when considering changes to a successful strength training routine. He suggests that if an individual is feeling good and their current approach is yielding positive results, it is best to maintain that strategy. If heavier lifting is desired, he recommends seeking professional guidance to ensure proper form and prevent injury.
"I definitely recommend high carb fueling. I think it's really important for you know marathons and ultras and a half marathon. You know I don't think you need to eat 150 grams of carbohydrate per hour although 60 to 75 might be a good idea especially if your half marathon takes longer than two hours."
Coach Jason strongly advocates for high carbohydrate fueling for endurance events like marathons and half marathons. He suggests a range of 60-75 grams of carbohydrates per hour, potentially increasing to 90-120 grams for longer half marathons or marathons. This highlights his belief in the performance and recovery benefits of adequate carbohydrate intake during prolonged exercise.
"The only thing that you can do is you can wear a heart rate monitor and you can ensure that you're staying you know in an appropriate intensity you know you certainly don't ever want to get near lactate threshold you know your zone four effort you want to stay mostly in in zone three for the marathon for the most part."
Coach Jason suggests using a heart rate monitor as a tool to manage marathon pacing and intensity. He recommends staying primarily within Zone 3, avoiding the higher intensity of Zone 4 (lactate threshold), to ensure sustainable effort throughout the race. This provides a physiological guideline for maintaining an appropriate pace without overexerting.
"The only thing that I'll say is besides just kind of follow the workouts in high performance lifting and that will take care of the tapering for the weightlifting for you the other just general advice I would say is when in doubt cut the volume extra volume is a really great capacity building strategy whether we're talking about running or you know reps in the gym."
Coach Jason explains that high-performance lifting programs are periodized, meaning they include a taper similar to running training. He advises that during a taper, the primary strategy should be to reduce volume, especially if uncertain about what to do. This approach aims to reduce fatigue while maintaining sharpness for peak performance on race day.
Resources
External Resources
Books
- "The Definitive Long Run Episode" by David Roche - Mentioned as a related podcast episode for long run strategy.
Articles & Papers
- "Strength" (strengthrunning.com) - Referenced as a starting point for information on heavy weightlifting.
Websites & Online Resources
- strengthrunning.com/join-the-team/ - Linked as the place to join the Team Strength Running community.
- strengthrunning.com/strength/ - Linked as a resource for information on heavy weightlifting.
- levermovement.com - Referenced as a bodyweight support system for running.
- drinklmnt.com/strengthrunning/ - Linked as the website for LMNT electrolytes.
- strengthrunning.com - Mentioned as a source for more running tips, videos, and memes.
Podcasts & Audio
- The Strength Running Podcast - The podcast series featuring this episode.
Other Resources
- High carb fueling - Discussed as a beneficial strategy for endurance events, marathons, and ultras.
- High performance lifting - Mentioned as a periodized approach to strength training that aligns with running training cycles.
- Team Strength Running - Referenced as a community for runners to learn, support, and receive coaching guidance.