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Prioritize Protein Over Processed Carbs For Metabolic Health

Original Title: Carbs vs. Protein: Which Macronutrient Is Actually More Dangerous to Overconsume?

TL;DR

  • Overconsuming cheap, processed carbohydrates, rather than protein, is the primary driver of obesity and metabolic dysfunction in Americans, leading to a 75% overweight/obese population and significant Type 2 diabetes rates.
  • Skeletal muscle, comprising 40% of body weight, is not designed for high carbohydrate loads, using only 2-5 grams of glucose per hour at rest, making excess intake metabolically detrimental.
  • A 1:1 protein-to-carbohydrate ratio, with carbohydrates primarily from fruits and vegetables, is recommended to control insulin, enhance satiety, and improve metabolic outcomes like glucose regulation and lower triglycerides.
  • Prioritizing protein intake, aiming for 30-50 grams per meal, stimulates satiety hormones like GLP-1, mimicking the effects of GLP-1 drugs and aiding appetite regulation naturally.
  • Plant-based protein alone is insufficient for micronutrient needs, necessitating animal-based protein sources for essential nutrients like B12, iron, and zinc to avoid deficiencies.
  • For individuals over 40, prioritizing resistance training alongside cardiovascular activity and avoiding nighttime eating are crucial for maintaining muscle mass and preventing body composition decline.
  • Understanding individual carbohydrate tolerance, rather than relying on generalized RDAs, is key to designing a personalized nutrition plan that avoids blood sugar spikes and energy depletion.

Deep Dive

Americans face a significant calorie problem, overconsuming total calories, with 75% of the population being overweight or obese. The primary source of these excess calories is cheap, processed carbohydrates, leading to a dysregulation of metabolism. The top food categories contributing to daily calories include cookies, cakes, pastries, yeast breads, sugar-added soft drinks, crackers, pretzels, and chips, with these high-carbohydrate foods collectively providing nearly 30% of daily calories, largely from refined grains.

The discussion then shifts to understanding carbohydrate tolerance, which is presented as a crucial element for empowering one's nutrition plan. While protein is generally well-understood, new insights are emerging regarding carbohydrates. The average American consumes about 300 grams of carbohydrates daily, which, when broken down per meal, can equate to multiple oral glucose tolerance tests. This high intake distorts metabolism because the body's glucose disposal mechanisms are limited. The brain, red blood cells, and kidney cortex use approximately 80 to 100 grams of glucose daily, or about 4 grams per hour.

Healthy muscle at rest primarily derives energy from fatty acids, with glucose utilization being as low as 2 grams per hour in a resting state. Skeletal muscle, making up about 40% of body weight, has a relatively low resting energy expenditure. If a sedentary individual consumes more than 40 grams of carbohydrates per meal, the body relies on insulin for disposal, a mechanism that should not be chronically overused. The body is flexible in its fuel utilization, but without intense training, resting muscle burns fatty acids.

Protein is highlighted as a beneficial macronutrient, promoting satiety more effectively than carbohydrates. Unlike carbohydrates, which can lead to overconsumption, protein provides a feeling of fullness. The episode also touches on the importance of protein intake for building and maintaining muscle, noting that factors like amino acid profile and delivery speed are significant. The body requires nine essential amino acids to rebuild tissues, and products like Perfect Aminos aim to deliver these in the precise ratio for optimal utilization.

Designing a diet for metabolic health requires acknowledging current dietary habits, such as the average American's consumption of around 300 grams of carbohydrates daily. The body's capacity to dispose of carbohydrates at rest is limited. For instance, after a 75-gram oral glucose tolerance test, skeletal muscle takes up approximately 26% of the dose, with a portion being oxidized and another portion entering other pathways. The use of euglycemic clamps in controlled metabolic wards provides ideal conditions for measuring glucose disposal but does not reflect real-life scenarios where multiple high-carbohydrate meals are consumed throughout the day, leading to challenges with metabolism as muscle glycogen remains full.

The focus then moves to designing meals that prioritize protein intake, followed by carbohydrates dosed in a way that avoids excessive insulin spikes. A sedentary individual consuming another 100 grams of carbohydrates a few hours after a meal when muscle glycogen is still full faces metabolic challenges. The source suggests that a protein-to-carbohydrate ratio closer to 1:1 can lead to improved body composition, glucose regulation, and lower triglycerides.

Regarding carbohydrate choices, fruits and vegetables are recommended, along with options like bananas, berries, sweet potatoes, quinoa, rice, and sourdough. However, the source emphasizes earning these carbohydrates through exercise. The RDA for carbohydrates is around 130 grams daily, with the actual need being about 80 grams plus a 50-gram buffer. Carbohydrate tolerance is influenced by muscle mass and activity levels. For example, someone running a marathon might need 400 to 500 grams of carbohydrates, which is manageable with sufficient physical activity.

The discussion also addresses the prevalence of refined grain overconsumption, with 95% of Americans exceeding recommendations, while 80% to 90% underconsume fruits and vegetables. The carb-to-fiber ratio is presented as another important metric, with a preference for more fiber than starchy carbohydrates, as fiber acts as a "speed bump" to slow glucose release. A banana, for instance, has high carbohydrates and low fiber, making it a less ideal choice based on this ratio.

Moving to protein, the conversation distinguishes between plant and animal protein. While plant-based diets can provide sufficient protein, the source argues that for micronutrient needs, a diet including at least 30% animal-based protein is necessary. Without this, supplementation with nutrients like B vitamins and iron may be required, unlike in omnivores. The source suggests that essential amino acids can be particularly useful for individuals struggling to consume adequate protein, especially those on plant-based diets or older adults with reduced appetite.

The debate on protein timing is addressed, with the prevailing evidence suggesting that overall daily protein intake and distribution are more critical than precise timing around exercise. However, protein timing might matter in specific scenarios, such as for individuals on lower protein diets, older adults battling sarcopenia, or during prolonged endurance exercises where amino acids are also utilized. For those focused on maximizing body composition, protein timing around exercise is generally not considered a primary factor, but the first meal of the day, coming out of an overnight fast, is highlighted as meaningful for stimulating muscle and satiety hormones like GLP-1 and CCK.

The episode then delves into the biggest mistakes people over 40 make regarding body composition. These include nighttime eating, often driven by a "I just deserve this" mentality, and an over-prioritization of cardiovascular activity over resistance training, which is crucial for maintaining muscle mass as people age. Another common mistake is constantly seeking quick fixes and following diet trends erratically. The importance of prioritizing self-care, including resistance training and proper nutrition, is stressed as essential for being a good parent and living a full life. Lastly, a lack of planning, such as not food prepping, is identified as a significant error.

The explosion of GLP-1 medications is discussed in relation to nutrition. A higher protein diet, defined as 25% to 35% of calories from protein, improves satiety and supports weight loss, even with moderate carbohydrate intake. Protein stimulates the secretion of GLP-1, which slows gastric emptying, thereby enhancing satiety. Interestingly, both animal and plant proteins appear to stimulate GLP-1 release. For individuals seeking the benefits of GLP-1 without medication, increasing protein intake to 30 to 50 grams per meal is suggested as a way to leverage "nature's own GLP-1."

The conversation also touches on the use of casein protein before bed, noting its slow absorption and potential to promote sleep, though its superiority over other protein sources for satiety is not definitively established. The source questions the neurotransmitter data supporting casein's specific impact on brain function.

Regarding exercise, high-intensity interval training (HIIT) is discussed, with evidence suggesting significant improvements in VO2 max, body composition, and cardio-metabolic outcomes for all populations, including reproductive-age females and those with polycystic ovary syndrome. HIIT is presented as time-efficient and effective for improving overall fitness, cognition, and executive functioning.

Finally, the protein-to-carbohydrate ratio is revisited, with a recommendation to aim for equal amounts of protein and starchy carbohydrates to control insulin response and satiety

Action Items

  • Design meal plan: Prioritize a 1:1 protein-to-carbohydrate ratio, ensuring no more than 40g of carbohydrates per meal unless timed with physical activity.
  • Track carbohydrate tolerance: For 3-5 meals daily, measure glucose response to understand individual limits and optimize meal composition.
  • Implement protein-forward breakfast: Consume 30-50 grams of protein within 0-2 hours of waking to stimulate muscle and enhance satiety.
  • Evaluate animal vs. plant protein: For 3-5 individuals, assess micronutrient intake and muscle building potential when shifting dietary protein sources.
  • Calculate carb-to-fiber ratio: For 5-10 staple foods, ensure a ratio favoring fiber over starchy carbohydrates to manage glucose response.

Key Quotes

"Americans right out of the gate have a calorie problem we are overconsuming total calories the average american consumes about 300 grams of carbs daily this will distort metabolism 75 of americans are either overweight or obese we are exposed and have access to cheap processed carbohydrates that we haven't had before how do we structure a meal plan and really understand our bodies and the environment that we're in will allow us to succeed"

Dr. Lyon highlights that a primary issue in American diets is the overconsumption of total calories, largely driven by cheap, processed carbohydrates. This excessive intake distorts metabolism and contributes to widespread obesity. She suggests that understanding one's body and environment is key to structuring a successful meal plan.


"Understanding your carbohydrate tolerance is probably one of the most important things that you can do to empower your own nutrition plan a lot of the information out there is very clear on protein carbohydrates there are things that we are beginning to learn that can reframe how we orient ourselves to carbohydrates"

Dr. Lyon emphasizes the critical role of carbohydrate tolerance in personal nutrition planning. While protein intake is well-understood, she notes that emerging knowledge is changing how we should approach carbohydrates. Understanding individual tolerance is presented as a powerful tool for optimizing one's diet.


"glucose is an important fuel for most cells in the body there's it's an obligatory fuel for brain red blood cells and the kidney cortex we can agree upon that yes however the three tissues combined use approximately are you ready for this i mean you probably know this 80 to 100 grams of glucose daily which translates into approximately 4 grams per hour that's not a lot no"

Dr. Lyon explains that while glucose is essential for certain bodily functions, the total daily requirement for the brain, red blood cells, and kidney cortex is surprisingly low, approximately 80-100 grams per day, or about 4 grams per hour. This underscores that the body's inherent need for glucose is significantly less than what is often consumed.


"if you have a small brain if 4 grams per hour with the brain accounting for the majority of the use we're in trouble when you consume more than 40 grams and you are sedentary then you begin to rely on other mechanisms like insulin which should be not used meaning we shouldn't rely on insulin for every meal because from my perspective it's more of a fail safe mechanism but it is not what we should be doing"

Dr. Lyon points out that when sedentary individuals consume more than 40 grams of carbohydrates, their bodies must rely on insulin to manage the excess. She argues that this reliance on insulin for every meal is not ideal, viewing it as a fail-safe mechanism rather than a primary metabolic pathway for regular use.


"skeletal muscle which makes up 40 of your body weight is not very metabolically active and it does not readily use glucose as its primary substrate if you are having more than 100 grams of or more than 40 grams of glucose per meal where does that go what ends up happening and for the average person they are not going through long periods of fasting"

Dr. Lyon clarifies that skeletal muscle, despite its size, is not highly metabolically active and does not primarily use glucose. She questions where excess glucose goes when intake exceeds 40 grams per meal, especially for sedentary individuals who do not engage in prolonged fasting periods.


"the benefit of protein is it promotes satiety right that you don't get from carbohydrates and we've all had that incident or maybe you've never had it but where you know you start eating chips and then all of a sudden there's there's never happened it never happened to you but um so it's happened versus i've never had a moment where like i'm eating a steak uncontrollably and i keep going right i'm i'm full after that steak i think that's important to to note"

Dr. Lyon contrasts the satiety effects of protein and carbohydrates, noting that protein promotes fullness, which is often lacking with carbohydrate consumption. She uses the example of uncontrollable chip eating versus feeling satisfied after a steak to illustrate this difference, highlighting protein's role in appetite control.


"95 of americans are overconsuming refined grains and 80 to 90 of americans are underconsuming fruits and vegetables no surprise no surprise i love sweet potatoes i love rice i also like regular potatoes yeah regular potatoes i do not discriminate at all"

Dr. Lyon presents statistics indicating that a vast majority of Americans consume too many refined grains and too few fruits and vegetables. Despite this, she expresses personal enjoyment of various carbohydrate sources, including sweet potatoes, rice, and regular potatoes, suggesting a nuanced approach to carbohydrate intake.


"if we can reduce that to closer to a one to one ratio we start to see changes in body composition that are the following we see better glucose regulation better insulin regulation we're not seeing these huge spikes in insulin we're also seeing lower triglycerides that would make sense these have clear metabolic outcomes for long term health overall"

Dr. Lyon suggests that shifting the ratio of carbohydrates to protein closer to one-to-one can lead to significant improvements in body composition. She explains that this ratio helps regulate glucose and insulin levels, reduces insulin spikes, and lowers triglycerides, all of which contribute to better long-term metabolic health.

Resources

External Resources

Books

  • The Forever Strong PLAYBOOK - Mentioned for pre-order bonuses.

Articles & Papers

  • "The Forever Strong PLAYBOOK" - Mentioned in relation to pre-order bonuses.

People

  • Nick Barringer - Expert on nutrition and performance for the tactical athlete, Program Director for the Army-Baylor University Master’s Program in Nutrition.
  • Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - Host of "The Dr. Gabrielle Lyon Show," author of "The Forever Strong PLAYBOOK."
  • Martin Gibala - World leading expert in high intensity interval training from McMaster University.
  • Heather Ledy - Researcher studying FMRI brain function and the first meal effect.
  • Jerry Autry - Mentioned in relation to fellowship in executive functioning.
  • Louisa - Mentioned in relation to cold plunging for females.
  • Stacy Sams - Mentioned in relation to GLP-1.

Organizations & Institutions

  • Army-Baylor University Master’s Program in Nutrition - Mentioned as the current affiliation of Nick Barringer.
  • Texas A&M University - Mentioned as the institution where Nick Barringer obtained his Doctorate degree in Kinesiology.
  • University of Georgia - Mentioned as the institution where Nick Barringer received his undergraduate degree in dietetics.
  • United States Military Academy at West Point - Mentioned as a previous employer of Nick Barringer.
  • 75th Ranger Regiment - Mentioned as a previous assignment for Nick Barringer.
  • CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) - Cited for statistics on type two diabetes.
  • USDA (United States Department of Agriculture) - Mentioned in relation to the Healthy Eating Index.
  • International Society of Sports Nutrition - Mentioned as a source of research colleagues.
  • McMaster University - Mentioned as the institution where Martin Gibala works.

Websites & Online Resources

  • drgabriellelyon.com/playbook/ - URL for pre-ordering "The Forever Strong PLAYBOOK."
  • foreverstrong.supercast.com - URL for subscribing to "Forever Strong Insider."
  • instagram.com/nickbarringer.phd.rdn - Nick Barringer's Instagram profile.
  • drnickbarringer.com/ - Nick Barringer's personal website.
  • drgabriellelyon.com/new-patient-inquiry/ - URL for applying to become a patient of Dr. Gabrielle Lyon.
  • institute-for-muscle-centric-medicine.ck.page - URL for Dr. Gabrielle Lyon's weekly newsletter.
  • amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1668085623 - Amazon link for Dr. Gabrielle Lyon's new book.
  • bodyhealth.com - Website for BodyHealth, a sponsor.
  • piquelife.com/DRLYON - Website for Pique, a sponsor.
  • timeline.com/LYON - Website for Timeline, a sponsor.
  • oneskin.co - Website for OneSkin, a sponsor.
  • x.com/drgabriellelyon - Dr. Gabrielle Lyon's X (Twitter) profile.
  • tiktok.com/@drgabriellelyon - Dr. Gabrielle Lyon's TikTok profile.
  • facebook.com/doctorgabriellelyon - Dr. Gabrielle Lyon's Facebook profile.
  • youtube.com/@DrGabrielleLyon - Dr. Gabrielle Lyon's YouTube channel.

Other Resources

  • 1:1 Protein-to-Carbohydrate Ratio Rule - A strategy for meal planning.
  • Carbohydrate Tolerance - A concept discussed for empowering nutrition plans.
  • GLP-1 (Glucagon-like peptide-1) - A hormone discussed in relation to satiety and weight loss.
  • GLP-1 drugs - Mentioned as an alternative to increasing protein intake for satiety benefits.
  • GLP-1 microdosing - Mentioned as a potential method to stimulate GLP-1 release.
  • Euglycemic clamp - A technique used in metabolic research under controlled conditions.
  • Muscle-centric lifestyle - A lifestyle approach discussed in relation to bioenergetics.
  • Anabolic window - A concept related to protein timing after exercise.
  • Sarcopenia - Age-related loss of muscle mass.
  • Carb to fiber ratio - A metric used to evaluate carbohydrate choices.
  • Ketogenic diet (Keto) - Mentioned as a diet trend.
  • Zone 2 training - A type of cardiovascular activity.
  • High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT) - A training strategy discussed for its benefits across populations.
  • GLP-1 (Glucagon-like peptide-1) - A hormone discussed in relation to satiety and weight loss.
  • GLP-1 drugs - Mentioned as an alternative to increasing protein intake for satiety benefits.
  • GLP-1 microdosing - Mentioned as a potential method to stimulate GLP-1 release.
  • Euglycemic clamp - A technique used in metabolic research under controlled conditions.
  • Muscle-centric lifestyle - A lifestyle approach discussed in relation to bioenergetics.
  • Anabolic window - A concept related to protein timing after exercise.
  • Sarcopenia - Age-related loss of muscle mass.
  • Carb to fiber ratio - A metric used to evaluate carbohydrate choices.
  • Ketogenic diet (Keto) - Mentioned as a diet trend.
  • Zone 2 training - A type of cardiovascular activity.
  • High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT) - A training strategy discussed for its benefits across populations.

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