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Strategic Ketosis: Metabolic Memory, Neuroprotection, and Exogenous Supplement Risks

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TL;DR

  • Ketogenic diets can enhance neuroprotection and reduce inflammation, potentially delaying the onset of neurodegenerative diseases by optimizing cardiometabolic and immuno-metabolic biomarkers like insulin and hsCRP.
  • Exogenous ketone supplements containing 1,3-butanediol pose toxicity risks, including liver damage and dependency, necessitating careful consideration of formulation and dosage, especially for older individuals.
  • Metabolic memory suggests that periods of ketosis can confer lasting benefits, enhancing fat metabolism and mitochondrial function, making periodic ketogenic interventions potentially effective for long-term health.
  • The glucose ketone index (GKI) of 1-4 is considered therapeutically beneficial, but high ketone utilization due to improved metabolic health can lead to lower blood ketone readings, requiring a nuanced interpretation of personal metrics.
  • Incorporating whole food fiber sources like broccoli and wild blueberries into a ketogenic diet can support gut health and micronutrient intake without significantly disrupting ketosis, provided overall carbohydrate intake remains controlled.
  • Exogenous ketone esters, particularly those containing 1,3-butanediol, can trigger an insulin response and suppress endogenous ketone production, potentially negating benefits if not carefully managed with meals or MCT oil.
  • Regular exercise, particularly resistance training, acts as an endocrine organ, producing neuroprotective molecules and enhancing brain health, which is crucial for delaying cognitive decline and complementing metabolic interventions.

Deep Dive

Ketosis, achieved through ketogenic diets or exogenous ketone supplements, offers significant therapeutic potential for cognitive enhancement, mood stabilization, and metabolic health, but its application requires careful consideration of individual physiology and potential risks associated with certain formulations. Dr. Dominic D'Agostino's research highlights that sustained ketosis can lead to reduced sleep needs, improved mental clarity, and stabilized mood by altering brain neuropharmacology, potentially aiding conditions from depression to schizophrenia. Beyond cognitive benefits, ketosis can facilitate weight loss and improve insulin sensitivity, making it a valuable tool for metabolic disorders. However, the nuanced understanding of ketone metabolism, particularly concerning utilization versus production, and the potential toxicity of certain exogenous ketone compounds necessitate a personalized and informed approach to its implementation.

The practical application of ketosis reveals significant downstream effects on metabolic health and cognitive function. D'Agostino explains that the brain's ability to utilize ketones as an alternative fuel source, coupled with potential neuroprotective and anti-inflammatory mechanisms, underpins its benefits for conditions like Lyme disease and potentially Alzheimer's. This metabolic flexibility, akin to muscle memory, suggests that periods of ketosis can confer lasting metabolic advantages. However, achieving optimal therapeutic levels requires careful calibration, as low ketone readings in individuals with high insulin sensitivity may indicate efficient utilization rather than insufficient production. Furthermore, the use of exogenous ketones, particularly those containing 1,3-butanediol, presents toxicity concerns, including liver strain and potential dependency, underscoring the need for caution and preference for formulations without this compound.

Ultimately, the therapeutic window for ketosis, especially concerning exogenous ketone supplementation, emphasizes precision and individual assessment. While a Glucose Ketone Index (GKI) of 1-2 is often cited as therapeutic, a broader range of 1-4 may still confer benefits, particularly when considering the complex interplay of ketone utilization and production. For those seeking preventative benefits against neurodegenerative diseases or metabolic dysfunction, periodic cycles of ketosis, combined with a low-carbohydrate diet and exercise, appear to offer sustained advantages. The key lies in understanding individual metabolic responses, leveraging tools like continuous glucose monitors (CGMs) for personalized dietary insights, and prioritizing whole-food-based ketogenic approaches over potentially toxic synthetic compounds. The potential for metabolic memory and enhanced brain health through strategic ketosis suggests it remains a potent, albeit complex, intervention.

Action Items

  • Audit personal metabolic flexibility: For 3-4 weeks, track glucose and ketone levels daily (ref: GKI calculation) to identify optimal dietary patterns.
  • Implement weekly ketosis intervention: For 1 week per month, aim for a Glucose Ketone Index (GKI) of 1-2 for at least 3 days to stimulate metabolic memory.
  • Evaluate exogenous ketone safety: For 2 weeks, monitor liver enzymes (AST, ALT, GGT) after consuming 1,3-butanediol-based supplements to assess potential toxicity.
  • Design cognitive baseline assessment: Establish baseline performance metrics using 3-5 brain training app modules (e.g., reaction time, decision-making) to track neuroprotective effects.
  • Track dietary fiber intake: For 2 weeks, monitor daily fiber consumption from whole foods (e.g., broccoli, wild blueberries, apples) to ensure adequate intake without disrupting ketosis.

Key Quotes

"Immediately, I will notice, once I get to a certain concentration in my blood, and that's generally around, let's just call it, 0.7 millimolars measured with a finger prick, and then more as you get going, I need less sleep. So instead of 8 to 9 hours, 6 hours, 6 and a half hours, I wake up and I am wide awake. So that's another difference. I wake up and I am wide awake, alert, ready to go. I don't need an hour of booting up and tons of caffeine to get online. I am mentally sharper. My verbal acuity, my ability to think, just has a faster turnover."

Tim Ferriss highlights a personal benefit of ketosis: a significant reduction in sleep needs coupled with increased mental acuity and alertness. This suggests that ketosis can optimize physiological processes, leading to more efficient energy utilization for cognitive functions and rest.


"There are many benefits to being in ketosis, and a ketogenic diet, if we're going to go there, kind of has the benefits of fasting, and there are, for millennia, we know the benefits of fasting without the baggage, without the metabolic baggage, you know, the muscle loss, the fatigue. Obviously, you can't live in a, you know, that level of caloric deficit. But in regards to, you know, the practical applications of it, we know that being in a state of ketosis really quiets the mind, and I think that has major implications."

Dr. Dominic D'Agostino explains that a ketogenic diet offers benefits similar to fasting but without the associated drawbacks like muscle loss and fatigue. He emphasizes that ketosis has a calming effect on the mind, suggesting broad implications for cognitive and neurological health.


"The reason that the ketogenic diet became doubly interesting to me is that when I had Lyme disease the second time, which came with all sorts of co-infections like babesiosis and so on... I ended up weeks later slurring my speech, took me minutes to get out of bed because my joints hurt so much, forgetting friends' names... And basically at my wit's end, I said, 'Well, what can I control because a lot has not done the job?' And I went into strict ketosis. What does that mean? That means that I'm consuming moderate protein, probably getting at least 50% of my calories from fat and keeping my carbohydrates to less than 20 grams a day, probably at that point. And within three or four days, I'd probably say around day three or four, because I wasn't very fat-adapted at the time. My body wasn't well-trained to use fat because I wasn't doing intermittent fasting, which we'll come back to. And within three or four days, effectively all of my cognitive symptoms disappeared."

Tim Ferriss shares a personal account of using a strict ketogenic diet to overcome severe cognitive and physical symptoms associated with Lyme disease. He details the dietary parameters and the rapid improvement observed, suggesting ketosis can be a powerful therapeutic tool for certain health conditions.


"So the spirochete, Borrelia, that spirochete is essentially 100% glycolytic. And when you limit glucose availability and glycolysis, you are targeting the energy systems of that microbe. So that's one thing to think about. And it's well-established now, it wasn't three years ago, but a ketogenic diet, in particular beta-hydroxybutyrate elevated in the blood, stimulates the adaptive immune response. And that's essentially your body's ability to target foreign invaders and neutralize them."

Dr. Dominic D'Agostino provides a mechanistic explanation for why ketosis may be beneficial for Lyme disease. He posits that by limiting glucose, a primary fuel source for the Borrelia spirochete, and by enhancing the immune response through elevated beta-hydroxybutyrate, ketosis can target the pathogen and bolster the body's defenses.


"I think the science is still working to clarify that and make it less ambiguous the benefits that we are deriving from that. But that is kind of like, you know, one of the pitches for the fasting mimicking diet by Dr. Valter Longo, who was one of our keynote speakers at Metabolic Health Summit. And he's presented some really compelling research on that that opened my eyes to that. Five days of fasting can have, I think he presented the time, even three months of effects on sort of cardiometabolic biomarkers. In his case, this would be the fast mimicking diet. So a few hundred calories a day."

Dr. Dominic D'Agostino discusses the concept of "metabolic memory," drawing parallels to muscle memory. He suggests that periods of fasting or ketogenic dieting can create lasting positive changes in metabolic biomarkers, similar to how exercise builds muscle memory, potentially offering sustained health benefits even after the dietary intervention ceases.


"The biggest metabolic lever would be you have enhanced insulin sensitivity. And I think that has been the focus, for example, Ben Bikman wrote a book on this and, you know, doing hundreds of podcasts on insulin resistance, reversing insulin resistance and low carb ketogenic, you know, being effective for that. So that first and foremost, your insulin sensitivity is very high. Your fat oxidation is really high. And your glucose disposal is high. And if you're in a caloric deficit, your ketone uptake is very high."

Dr. Dominic D'Agostino explains that a primary benefit of a ketogenic diet, particularly for those with insulin resistance, is the significant improvement in insulin sensitivity. He highlights that this leads to enhanced fat oxidation, efficient glucose disposal, and high ketone utilization, especially when combined with a caloric deficit.


"The field is trending towards non-1,3-butanediol based exogenous ketones. And that could be free acids. It could be a triester with glycerol. And also the ketone electrolyte salts. But you could also avert part of this just by formulation. The issue is that companies have one molecule and then they test that one molecule. But I think formulation is the way to go. And companies don't kind of want to hear that because they have all their IP in like one molecule. But we've always been a formulation kind of based lab and always saw that these things always have drawbacks when used as a monotherapy. But when you start combining them together, that's when you get better therapeutic effects."

Dr. Dominic D'Agostino discusses the evolving landscape of exogenous ketones, noting a shift away from 1,3-butanediol-based formulations due to potential toxicity concerns. He advocates for a formulation-based approach, combining different ketone types and ingredients to optimize therapeutic effects and mitigate drawbacks, rather than relying on single-molecule products.


"I think in your context, it's hard to say like, you know, to give absolutes. But I would say you can get 80% of the benefits with a low-carb diet. Low-carb meaning, you know, 100 grams a day, just fibrous

Resources

External Resources

Books

  • "Four Hour Body" by Tim Ferriss - Mentioned as a reference for past dietary experiments and advice on losing body fat.

Articles & Papers

  • "Spark" - Mentioned as an outdated book covering exercise and its benefits.

People

  • Dr. Dominic D’Agostino - Guest on the podcast, associate professor at the University of South Florida Morsani College of Medicine, visiting senior research scientist at the Institute for Human and Machine Cognition, researcher on nutritional strategies and metabolic therapies.
  • Dr. Walter Longo - Mentioned for his research on fasting mimicking diets and their cardiometabolic biomarker effects.
  • Dr. Rhonda Patrick - Mentioned for her research and conversations related to intermittent fasting.
  • Mark Mattson - Mentioned for his research related to intermittent fasting.
  • Dr. Chris Palmer - Mentioned for his work on metabolic psychiatry and ketogenic diets for mental health conditions.
  • Dr. Annette Bosworth (Dr. Boz) - Credited for amplifying the message of "sardine fasting" and its benefits.
  • Dr. Mary Newport - Mentioned in relation to a case report on 1,3-butanediol use.
  • Steve Newport - Mentioned in relation to a case report on 1,3-butanediol use.
  • Dr. Richard Veech - Credited for the conception of ketone esters and their science, a student of Hans Krebs.
  • Hans Krebs - Mentioned as the mentor of Dr. Richard Veech, known for the Krebs cycle.
  • Patrick Arnold - Mentioned for formulating ketone esters in 2009.
  • Dr. Henri Bruningrabber - Mentioned as a developer of the triester ketone formulation.
  • Dr. Sammy Hashem - Mentioned as a developer of the triester ketone formulation.
  • Dr. Ben Bikman - Mentioned for his book on insulin resistance and the effectiveness of low-carb/ketogenic diets.
  • Dr. Donald Layman - Mentioned as a proponent of protein intake in the morning.
  • Dr. Stu Phillips - Mentioned as a proponent of protein intake in the morning.
  • Dr. Lane Norton - Mentioned as a proponent of protein intake in the morning.

Organizations & Institutions

  • University of South Florida Morsani College of Medicine - Affiliation of Dr. Dominic D’Agostino.
  • Institute for Human and Machine Cognition - Affiliation of Dr. Dominic D’Agostino.
  • NASA - Mentioned in relation to Dr. Dominic D’Agostino's research as a crew member on extreme environment missions.
  • Office of Naval Research - Mentioned as a supporter of Dr. Dominic D’Agostino's research.
  • Department of Defense - Mentioned as a supporter of Dr. Dominic D’Agostino's research.
  • NIH (National Institutes of Health) - Mentioned as a supporter of Dr. Dominic D’Agostino's research.
  • Bazuki Group - Mentioned as a funder of research in metabolic psychiatry.
  • University of Pennsylvania - Mentioned for research in CAR T therapy and checkpoint inhibitors related to ketogenic enhancement of the immune response.
  • Harvard - Affiliation of Dr. Chris Palmer.
  • Gusto - Mentioned as a payroll and HR platform for small businesses.
  • G2 - Mentioned as a source naming Gusto as the number one payroll software.
  • Exploding Kittens - Mentioned as the team that created the card game "Coyote."
  • The Society for Integrative Metabolic Oncology - A group discussing the glucose ketone index (GKI).
  • DARPA - Mentioned in relation to funding the development of ketone esters.
  • Oxford - Mentioned for acquiring intellectual property related to ketone esters.
  • NIH - Mentioned for a grant on brain training games.
  • Meti Foods - Mentioned as a company developing whole-food based ketogenic diet prescription foods.
  • Quest Nutrition - Mentioned as a company that previously attempted to create ketogenic diet foods.
  • Uber - Mentioned as an example of a tech startup with a pricing strategy.
  • Tesla - Mentioned as an example of a tech startup with a pricing strategy.

Websites & Online Resources

  • Keto Nutrition Org - An information website about ketogenic nutrition.
  • The Metabolic Link Podcast - A podcast hosted by Dr. Dominic D’Agostino.
  • Metabolic Health Initiative - An education platform with CME accreditation.
  • Tim.blog/friday - Website for signing up for Tim Ferriss's "Five Bullet Friday" newsletter.
  • Gusto.com/tim - Website for Gusto, offering three months free for listeners.
  • Seed.com/tim - Website for Seed's DSO-1 Daily Synbiotic, offering 20% off the first month with code 20TIM.
  • CoyoteGame.com - Website for the card game "Coyote."

Other Resources

  • Ketosis - A metabolic state discussed for its benefits on mood, cognition, and long-term health.
  • Exogenous Ketones - Supplemental ketones discussed for their potential benefits and risks.
  • Continuous Glucose Monitor (CGM) - Device used to track blood glucose levels.
  • Continuous Ketone Monitor (CKM) - Device used to track ketone levels.
  • Aura Ring - Device used to track sleep architecture.
  • Oral Glucose Tolerance Test (OGT) - Test to assess the body's response to glucose.
  • Glucose Ketone Index (GKI) - A ratio used to assess metabolic health.
  • Metabolic Memory - The concept that the body retains adaptations from previous metabolic states.
  • Rabbit Starvation - A condition resulting from a diet solely of lean protein.
  • 1,3-Butanediol - A component in some exogenous ketone supplements discussed for its potential toxicity.
  • Ketone Salts - A type of exogenous ketone supplement.
  • Ketone Monoester - A type of exogenous ketone supplement.
  • Ketone Diester - A type of exogenous ketone supplement.
  • MCT Oil - Medium-chain triglyceride oil, discussed for its role in ketone production and tolerance.
  • Apple Cider Vinegar - Mentioned as a component in a ketogenic meal.
  • Oxtail Soup - Mentioned as a ketogenic meal option.
  • Wild Blueberries - Mentioned as a source of fiber and antioxidants.
  • Broccoli - Mentioned as a source of fiber.
  • Apples - Mentioned as a source of pectin fiber.
  • Walnuts - Mentioned as a food source.
  • Macadamia Nuts - Mentioned as a ketogenic food source.
  • Lentils - Mentioned as a food with a potentially flat CGM response for some individuals.
  • Theanine - Mentioned in a supplement that caused incapacitation.
  • Magnesium - Mentioned in a supplement that caused incapacitation.
  • N-acetylcysteine - Mentioned as a supplement taken by Dr. D'Agostino.
  • Alpha-lipoic acid - Mentioned as a supplement taken by Dr. D'Agostino.
  • Repatha - Mentioned as a medication for cholesterol management.
  • Zetia - Mentioned as a medication for cholesterol management.
  • Nexlizet - Mentioned as a medication for cholesterol management.
  • Nicotinic Acid - Mentioned as a medication for cholesterol management.
  • Klotho - Mentioned in relation to exercise and its benefits.
  • BDNF (Brain-Derived Neurotrophic Factor) - Mentioned in relation to exercise.
  • Joggle - Mentioned as a tool for cognitive testing.
  • The NIH Toolbox - Mentioned as a set of tests for cognitive function.
  • Sardine Fasting - A dietary practice discussed for its benefits.
  • Gummy Supplements - Mentioned as a potentially dangerous product due to unknown additives.

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