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Culinary Resilience, Forgotten Foods, and Cocktail Evolution

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TL;DR

  • Generational family recipes, like Kathy Fang's father's adapted Shanghainese dishes using local ingredients such as peanut butter for sesame paste, demonstrate culinary resilience and innovation by fusing traditional flavors with accessible components.
  • The illusion of scarcity in wild food is dispelled by foragers like Pascal Baudar, who identifies up to 90 edible seeds and grains in Southern California, revealing a vast, overlooked food source beyond store-bought varieties.
  • Invasive plants, such as the Great Brome grass, can be transformed into edible food sources, like a red rice-like grain after 60-minute boiling, highlighting a sustainable approach to managing ecological challenges.
  • Ingredient-focused restaurants like King, led by Jess Shadbolt, embrace an intuitive, seasonal culinary aesthetic that requires precise measurement translation for home cooks, emphasizing ingredient celebration over complex techniques.
  • The historical evolution of cocktails reveals how colonialism, through the need for preserved beverages on long voyages, led to the creation of punch, which then paved the way for modern mixed drinks.
  • The term "mixologist" originated as a humorous, elaborate Americanism for a bartender in the mid-19th century, but quickly evolved into a technical descriptor for skilled drink preparers.
  • During Prohibition, the Bloody Mary and French 75 emerged as enduring mixed drinks, with the former evolving from a non-alcoholic tomato juice cocktail and the latter a champagne-spiked Tom Collins.

Deep Dive

The House of Nanking's enduring success is built on a foundation of immigrant resilience and culinary innovation, demonstrating how a family restaurant can thrive by adapting traditional Shanghai flavors to a new American palate. This adaptation, driven by necessity and creativity, not only sustained the business but also forged a unique identity that resonated with customers, ultimately leading to a legacy captured in a new cookbook.

Kathy Fang's childhood in San Francisco's Chinatown was immersed in the vibrant, sometimes chaotic ecosystem of her family's restaurant, the House of Nanking. Her father, Peter Fang, opened the restaurant in 1988 when Kathy was seven, and she spent her formative years there, participating in its daily life and absorbing its fast-paced energy. This early exposure instilled in her a deep appreciation for the food, the customer interactions, and the sheer tenacity required to run a successful restaurant. The restaurant's survival and growth were a testament to Peter Fang's ingenuity, particularly his ability to reinterpret Shanghai cuisine for a Cantonese-dominant San Francisco. Faced with limited access to traditional ingredients and a local palate accustomed to Cantonese flavors, he creatively substituted ingredients like peanut butter for sesame paste in sauces and adapted dishes to incorporate local produce, a fusion that became the restaurant's hallmark and drew lines down the street. This willingness to experiment, exemplified by his adaptation of a traditional Shanghainese lotus root dish with glutinous rice and osmanthus glaze, showcased a culinary philosophy that valued both heritage and adaptability. Even in small, everyday actions, like preparing a "straw in the egg" to-go breakfast for young Kathy, Peter Fang demonstrated a resourceful problem-solving approach that underscored the restaurant's operational ethos.

Beyond the restaurant's walls, the concept of culinary abundance and forgotten knowledge is explored through the work of forager Pascal Baudar. Baudar challenges the notion of scarcity by highlighting the vast, often overlooked, edible resources available in the wild, particularly seeds and grains. He notes that while many people see the landscape as barren in fall and winter, it is teeming with dozens of edible seeds and grains, many of which are not commercially available. Baudar emphasizes that this knowledge has been largely forgotten, but rediscovering it offers access to a diverse and abundant food source. He demonstrates practical methods for identifying and harvesting these resources, such as collecting wild mustard seeds, which can yield over two cups in an hour, and processing wild barley using a food processor for crackers or bread. His work also touches upon the ecological impact of agriculture, suggesting that cultivating native plants like acorns could be a more sustainable alternative to widespread grain monocultures like wheat. This perspective underscores a deeper implication: that rediscovering and utilizing wild edibles can not only provide sustenance but also reconnect individuals with forgotten ecological and culinary traditions.

The narrative then shifts to the ingredient-focused philosophy of New York City restaurant King, as explained by Chef Jess Shadbolt. King's culinary style is characterized by its simplicity, seasonality, and a profound respect for the ingredient itself, drawing inspiration from regional Italian and Southern French cooking. Shadbolt highlights the challenge of translating this intuitive, ingredient-led approach into precise recipes for home cooks, particularly regarding the generous use of olive oil. The restaurant's commitment to a small, daily changing menu reflects this philosophy, with dishes organized around core components like nibbles, starters, and mains, allowing for seasonal variation and reader personalization. The emphasis on foundational techniques, such as the rich pasta dough with extra egg yolks designed to complement robust sauces, and the versatile use of humble ingredients like beans and their cooking liquid, showcases a culinary approach that maximizes flavor and texture. Shadbolt also champions less common ingredients like quail, explaining its delicate gamey flavor and straightforward preparation, suggesting it as an accessible yet festive option, especially for holiday meals. Similarly, the seemingly daunting cassoulet is presented as a celebratory dish that can be prepared in stages, making it manageable for home cooks and ideal for gatherings.

Finally, the history of the cocktail, as chronicled by David Wondrich, reveals how colonialism and evolving social practices shaped the development of mixed drinks. The advent of punch, a direct consequence of British sailors needing a palatable alternative to spoiled beer on long voyages, marked a crucial step in popularizing spirits. This mixed drink became a "killer app" for spirits, leading to widespread consumption. The evolution continued with the julep, which reached its zenith in the 1830s with sophisticated preparations by African American bartenders, before simplifying after the Civil War. Wondrich also traces the origin of the term "mixology" to a humorous anecdote from the mid-19th century, illustrating how a joke evolved into a technical term for skilled bartending. Prohibition, while stifling innovation, paradoxically spurred the creation of enduring drinks like the Bloody Mary and the French 75, demonstrating how necessity can breed invention even in restrictive environments. The resurgence of the dry martini in challenging times further illustrates a recurring theme: that cocktails often serve as a source of solace and ritual during periods of societal difficulty.

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Key Quotes

"chinatown was created as a self sufficient community its own ecosystem so that immigrants who arrive to san francisco can find a place where they can get on their feet you know as an outsider who comes in some people may say wow this you know this feels like a whole another world it's loud it's bustling there's people yelling there's all kinds of interesting aromas that some may not be accustomed to but that to me was my entire childhood upbringing"

Evan Kleiman explains that Chinatown was designed as a self-sustaining ecosystem to support immigrants in San Francisco. This environment, though potentially overwhelming to outsiders with its noise and aromas, represented a familiar and formative world for her childhood.


"my dad has always loved food and cooking ever since he was young growing up in shanghai his mom was the caretaker and his mom was an incredible cook was always kind of just thinking out of the box you know for example she went and tried russian borscht for the first time at a famous russian restaurant called the red house and she came back and said wow you know there's there must be like a way that i can kind of make this not using all the traditional ingredients that i can't possibly find such as beets and so she ended up making her own version by sautéing tomatoes and she thought that there was a little bit too much acid in the way that the soup came out so she added a little bit of milk to the to the broth so she made her own version of russian borscht that like my dad would describe to me in detail and how oh my mom used to make all these dishes that were just a little different from other families and always so good"

Kathy Fang shares that her father's passion for cooking was inspired by his mother's innovative approach to food. Her grandmother, when encountering Russian borscht, creatively adapted the recipe using available ingredients like tomatoes instead of beets and milk to balance the acidity, demonstrating an early influence of culinary experimentation.


"my dad had to make his version of shanghainese food right he had to make a twist because when he made the traditional version it was a little too new for people and he would take essentially like shanghainese dishes things that he felt were very delicious about it and then combine it and fuse it with local ingredients so in shanghainese cuisine they often times use this sesame sauce right they use sesame paste and it goes on noodles they use it for dumplings and so my dad said okay i can make this version but i'm going to use peanut butter because he'd never had peanut butter he came to san francisco tried skippy for the first time and said oh my god this is so delicious i can see why americans like this he put it on dumplings except he decided to fry it instead of steaming it and people loved it they loved that sauce then he thought okay i can use this sauce on something else such as fried onion cakes he likes to follow like okay if they like this then how do i apply this to something else so that became a best selling sauce that applied to several heavy hitter appetizers that put us on the map"

Kathy Fang explains how her father adapted traditional Shanghainese dishes for a San Francisco palate by fusing them with local ingredients. She highlights his innovative use of peanut butter, a flavor he discovered in the U.S., in place of traditional sesame paste for dumplings and fried onion cakes, which became signature dishes that established the restaurant's reputation.


"okay so that's an interesting question right there so i've been fascinated with uh seeds and grains for many many many years but it's it's quite a complicated subject a lot of it has been forgotten and i came across that because uh if you think about it you're a forager in southern california most of the wild food will show up in spring time and summer time but starting fall everything turns into a desert and for the longest time i really didn't know what to do because everything looks completely dead i mean you look at the hills around los angeles everything's kind of like brown and looks brown and burnt a little bit and the more i started to learn about my environment the more i realized that everything i was looking at was actually food but food that is quite different in the sense that it's kind of like the invisible food and and i say that because you know people go hiking for example in fall time or even winter time and they look around and just you know things look dead but they don't realize that mustard or barley wild barley wild oats etcetera all those plants are going to seeds and this is really a subject that we've forgotten thinking that there is nothing there but the reality is that in southern california for example i can find i have found so far up to 90 90 edible seeds and grains in my environment"

Pascal Baudar discusses the "illusion of scarcity" regarding wild food in Southern California, particularly during fall and winter. He explains that while spring and summer offer visible wild foods, the landscape appears barren in cooler months, yet it is teeming with "invisible food" in the form of seeds and grains from plants like mustard, barley, and wild oats, a knowledge that has largely been forgotten.


"well i think um i think it's rather intuitive if i'm honest i think the approach like you know um that cooking that you talked about in the introduction of sort of southern french and regional italian cooking is really comes from within it's very simple it's very seasonal seasonally led it's rather sort of humble and i think you know it leads with the ingredient and um we try to do very little to it and sort of celebrate it for what it is um and so with that really just comes um a thoughtful approach to you know what what is this ingredient we're using and how best do we celebrate it on the plate"

Jess Shadbolt describes the culinary style at King restaurant as an intuitive aesthetic philosophy rather than a strict technique. She explains that their approach is rooted in simple, seasonal, and humble cooking, prioritizing the ingredient itself and aiming to celebrate its natural qualities with minimal intervention.


"well cassoulet i mean that is a real feast it's a celebration and you know i think those are the times where you might want to spend a little bit longer on something but it still doesn't have to like leave you locked in the kitchen for hours you know nobody has any time so i think there's a way of really kind of breaking it down and we actually did it last night at our cookbook party for 200 people so um it was it was the ultimate celebratory feast so we just approached it as we you know as we say to you in the book you know we cook the we soak the beans like the week ahead we cook them a few days out we confit the legs a few days out the duck legs cook the belly until it was the pork belly um to the it was like you know barely barely holding itself together and then just really brought it all together all the different components together"

Jess Shadbolt explains that while cassoulet is a celebratory dish, it can be prepared without being overly time-consuming by breaking down the process over several days. She details how components like beans, duck legs, and pork belly can be cooked in advance, allowing for

Resources

External Resources

Books

  • "The House of Nanking: Coming Home to Family, Food, Love, and the Recipe for the Iconic Chinese Restaurant" by Kathy Fang and Peter Fang - Mentioned in relation to sharing the history of the restaurant, its iconic dishes, and the creativity and resilience that defines it.
  • "Wildcrafted Seeds and Grains: An Introduction to Extracting, Preparing, Storing, and Cooking with Common Wild Varieties" by Pascal Baudar - Mentioned as a guide to foraging for seeds and grains, and includes recipes for wild dijon potato salad and wild mustard.
  • "The King Cookbook" by Jess Shadbolt, Claire de Boer, and Annie - Mentioned for its ingredient-based, stripped-down aesthetic that celebrates seasonal ingredients and provides recipes for home cooks.
  • "The Comic Book History of the Cocktail" by David Wondrich - Mentioned as a comic strip chronicling the evolution of mixology, covering topics from distillation to the modern martini.

Articles & Papers

  • "The Cocktail Book History of the Cocktail" (implied by context of David Wondrich's discussion) - Discussed as a resource for understanding the history of cocktails, including the origin of the term "mixologist."

People

  • Kathy Fang - Co-author of "The House of Nanking" cookbook, discussing her family's restaurant.
  • Peter Fang - Co-author of "The House of Nanking" cookbook, discussing his family's restaurant.
  • Pascal Baudar - Author of "Wildcrafted Seeds and Grains," discussing foraging for wild seeds and grains.
  • Jess Shadbolt - Chef and co-author of "The King Cookbook," discussing the culinary style of the restaurant King.
  • Claire de Boer - Co-owner of King and co-author of "The King Cookbook."
  • Annie - Co-author of "The King Cookbook."
  • David Wondrich - Author of "The Comic Book History of the Cocktail," discussing the history of cocktails and mixology.
  • Evan Kleiman - Host of "Good Food," connecting with guests and sharing recipes.

Organizations & Institutions

  • House of Nanking - San Francisco restaurant operated by Kathy and Peter Fang's family for over 35 years.
  • King - New York City restaurant helmed by Jess Shadbolt, known for its ingredient-focused aesthetic.
  • KCRW - Radio station that airs "Good Food" and provides recipes on its website.

Websites & Online Resources

  • kcrw.com/goodfood - Website where recipes from "Good Food" episodes are shared, including those for crispy tofu, wild dijon potato salad, wild mustard, grilled spatchcocked quail with polenta and confit shallots, and dry martinis.
  • Good Food Substack - Platform where recipes, such as a California fruitcake, are shared.

Other Resources

  • Distillation - The process of boiling fermented substances to capture alcoholic vapors, explained as a fundamental concept in spirit production.
  • Fermentation - The process preceding distillation, mentioned as a precursor to creating alcoholic beverages.
  • Punch - A mixed drink that became popular in England in the 1660s, considered an early form of a cocktail.
  • Julep - A mixed drink that peaked in popularity in the 1830s in America, known for its use of finely cracked ice and complex mixtures.
  • Cocktail - A mixed drink, with its origin traced to the Hudson Valley as a morning beverage combining bitters, sugar, and spirits.
  • Mixology - The art of mixing drinks, a term coined by Charles Leland as a humorous descriptor for a skilled bartender.
  • Bloody Mary - A mixed drink that emerged during Prohibition, evolving from a non-alcoholic tomato juice cocktail.
  • French 75 - A mixed drink from the Prohibition era, characterized by gin, lemon, sugar, soda water, and champagne.
  • Dry Martini - A classic cocktail experiencing a resurgence, often seen as a source of solace during difficult times.
  • Cassoulet - A celebratory French stew, discussed as a dish that can be prepared in advance and served in small bites for gatherings.
  • Sporkful - A podcast hosted by Dan Pashman, which uses food to explore culture, history, and science.

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